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wifi issue with TW snapshot 20171119

Robby Engelmann
Please find more information here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?
id=1068838

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Re: wifi issue with not yet released TW snapshot 20171119

C. Brouerius van Nidek
On Monday, November 20, 2017 4:18:33 AM WIB Robby Engelmann wrote:
> Please find more information here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?
> id=1068838

Your email got me puzzled because it mentioned a snapshot which I did not yet
have on my up to date system.
Found that you meant a not yet released snapshot, so I would suggest that you
rephrase such emails in order to let the recipients  know that you are talking
about  future snapshots.

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Re: wifi issue with not yet released TW snapshot 20171119

Stephan Kulow-3
Am 20.11.2017 um 04:19 schrieb C. Brouerius van Nidek:

> On Monday, November 20, 2017 4:18:33 AM WIB Robby Engelmann wrote:
>> Please find more information here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?
>> id=1068838
>
> Your email got me puzzled because it mentioned a snapshot which I did not yet
> have on my up to date system.
> Found that you meant a not yet released snapshot, so I would suggest that you
> rephrase such emails in order to let the recipients  know that you are talking
> about  future snapshots.
>
Do you have any suggestion how to phrase 'not yet released snapshot' so
you understand it's not yet released?

Greetings, Stephan

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Re: wifi issue with not yet released TW snapshot 20171119

Michal Kubecek
On Monday, 20 November 2017 8:25 Stephan Kulow wrote:

> Am 20.11.2017 um 04:19 schrieb C. Brouerius van Nidek:
> > On Monday, November 20, 2017 4:18:33 AM WIB Robby Engelmann wrote:
> >> Please find more information here:
> >> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi? id=1068838
> >
> > Your email got me puzzled because it mentioned a snapshot which I
> > did not yet have on my up to date system.
> > Found that you meant a not yet released snapshot, so I would suggest
> > that you rephrase such emails in order to let the recipients  know
> > that you are talking about  future snapshots.
>
> Do you have any suggestion how to phrase 'not yet released snapshot'
> so you understand it's not yet released?

IMHO "not yet released" is OK, I would maybe say "upcoming". But IIUC
the point here is that the original mail by Robby Engelmann didn't
indicate this in any way (until you follow the link).

Michal Kubeček
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Re: wifi issue with not yet released TW snapshot 20171119

Robby Engelmann
It did, you only have to read the subject.

And as far as I saw, DimStar got the point and can decide whether it is a
blocker or not.

Cheers,
Robby.
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On Montag, 20. November 2017 08:38:07 CET Michal Kubecek wrote:

> On Monday, 20 November 2017 8:25 Stephan Kulow wrote:
> > Am 20.11.2017 um 04:19 schrieb C. Brouerius van Nidek:
> > > On Monday, November 20, 2017 4:18:33 AM WIB Robby Engelmann wrote:
> > >> Please find more information here:
> > >> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi? id=1068838
> > >
> > > Your email got me puzzled because it mentioned a snapshot which I
> > > did not yet have on my up to date system.
> > > Found that you meant a not yet released snapshot, so I would suggest
> > > that you rephrase such emails in order to let the recipients  know
> > > that you are talking about  future snapshots.
> >
> > Do you have any suggestion how to phrase 'not yet released snapshot'
> > so you understand it's not yet released?
>
> IMHO "not yet released" is OK, I would maybe say "upcoming". But IIUC
> the point here is that the original mail by Robby Engelmann didn't
> indicate this in any way (until you follow the link).
>
> Michal Kubeček


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Re: wifi issue with not yet released TW snapshot 20171119

Robby Engelmann
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Oh sorry, indeed I forgot it to mention in the original message! It was just
before I  went to bed yesterday and I wanted to make the point to inform prior
to the release of the snapshot.

Cheers,
Robby.


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On Montag, 20. November 2017 08:38:07 CET Michal Kubecek wrote:

> On Monday, 20 November 2017 8:25 Stephan Kulow wrote:
> > Am 20.11.2017 um 04:19 schrieb C. Brouerius van Nidek:
> > > On Monday, November 20, 2017 4:18:33 AM WIB Robby Engelmann wrote:
> > >> Please find more information here:
> > >> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi? id=1068838
> > >
> > > Your email got me puzzled because it mentioned a snapshot which I
> > > did not yet have on my up to date system.
> > > Found that you meant a not yet released snapshot, so I would suggest
> > > that you rephrase such emails in order to let the recipients  know
> > > that you are talking about  future snapshots.
> >
> > Do you have any suggestion how to phrase 'not yet released snapshot'
> > so you understand it's not yet released?
>
> IMHO "not yet released" is OK, I would maybe say "upcoming". But IIUC
> the point here is that the original mail by Robby Engelmann didn't
> indicate this in any way (until you follow the link).
>
> Michal Kubeček


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Re: wifi issue with not yet released TW snapshot 20171119

Stephan Kulow-3
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Am 20.11.2017 um 08:38 schrieb Michal Kubecek:

> On Monday, 20 November 2017 8:25 Stephan Kulow wrote:
>> Am 20.11.2017 um 04:19 schrieb C. Brouerius van Nidek:
>>> On Monday, November 20, 2017 4:18:33 AM WIB Robby Engelmann wrote:
>>>> Please find more information here:
>>>> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi? id=1068838
>>>
>>> Your email got me puzzled because it mentioned a snapshot which I
>>> did not yet have on my up to date system.
>>> Found that you meant a not yet released snapshot, so I would suggest
>>> that you rephrase such emails in order to let the recipients  know
>>> that you are talking about  future snapshots.
>>
>> Do you have any suggestion how to phrase 'not yet released snapshot'
>> so you understand it's not yet released?
>
> IMHO "not yet released" is OK, I would maybe say "upcoming". But IIUC
> the point here is that the original mail by Robby Engelmann didn't
> indicate this in any way (until you follow the link).

Ah, C. changed the topic - I was fooled because I read the bug before
I read the mail about it :)

Greetings, Stephan

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Re: wifi issue with not yet released TW snapshot 20171119

Michal Kubecek
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On Monday, 20 November 2017 8:55 Robby Engelmann wrote:
> > IMHO "not yet released" is OK, I would maybe say "upcoming". But
> > IIUC
> > the point here is that the original mail by Robby Engelmann didn't
> > indicate this in any way (until you follow the link).
>
> It did, you only have to read the subject.

The subject was "[opensuse-factory] wifi issue with TW snapshot
20171119" (the words "not yet released" were only added with the first
reply). Sure, people who are involved in the process might realize
immediately it's unreleased yet but I doubt that is true for most people
reading the list.

Michal Kubeček

P.S. Please do not top-post.

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Re: wifi issue with not yet released TW snapshot 20171119

Arjen de Korte
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Citeren Stephan Kulow <[hidden email]>:

> Am 20.11.2017 um 04:19 schrieb C. Brouerius van Nidek:
>> On Monday, November 20, 2017 4:18:33 AM WIB Robby Engelmann wrote:
>>> Please find more information here:  
>>> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?
>>> id=1068838
>>
>> Your email got me puzzled because it mentioned a snapshot which I  
>> did not yet
>> have on my up to date system.
>> Found that you meant a not yet released snapshot, so I would  
>> suggest that you
>> rephrase such emails in order to let the recipients  know that you  
>> are talking
>> about  future snapshots.
>>
> Do you have any suggestion how to phrase 'not yet released snapshot' so
> you understand it's not yet released?

Don't mention Tumbleweed (or TW), but stick to 'Factory snapshot'  
instead. Tumbleweed implies that a snapshot was released, which is not  
the case here.

> Greetings, Stephan
>
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