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susehelp still needed?

Ludwig Nussel
Hi,

Is susehelp still used/needed by KDE? Looks quite outdated and requires
info2html which looks like a drop candidate to me.

cu
Ludwig

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Re: susehelp still needed?

Carlos E. R.-2
On 2017-04-11 10:44, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is susehelp still used/needed by KDE? Looks quite outdated and requires
> info2html which looks like a drop candidate to me.

I have used susehelp for decades, and I liked it, but it is broken now, has been broken for a long time.

I have uninstalled and re-installed it to make sure I have fresh config files, but it doesn't work:


cer@Telcontar:~> susehelp
Use of uninitialized value $kdeversion in numeric eq (==) at /usr/bin/susehelp-khelpcenter line 7.
Use of uninitialized value $kdeversion in numeric eq (==) at /usr/bin/susehelp-khelpcenter line 12.
Use of uninitialized value $kdeversion in numeric eq (==) at /usr/bin/susehelp-khelpcenter line 17.
Use of uninitialized value $kshell in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/susehelp-khelpcenter line 24.
Use of uninitialized value $khelpcenter in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/susehelp-khelpcenter line 24.
cer@Telcontar:~>


I'm not using KDE, but XFCE. Originally, susehelp worked on all desktops and even in text mode.


In text mode the error is:

cer@Telcontar:~> susehelp
Unable to find local doc server. If you want to use the doc server you
have to set the variable DOC_SERVER in /etc/sysconfig/apache2 to 'yes'
and start apache.
cer@Telcontar:~>


That variable is indeed set in my system since ever, does not work. Apache is running.


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Re: susehelp still needed?

Will Stephenson-2
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On Tuesday 11 Apr 2017 10:44:15 Ludwig Nussel wrote:
> Is susehelp still used/needed by KDE? Looks quite outdated and requires
> info2html which looks like a drop candidate to me.

I am not sure.

KDE maintainers - do any current khelpcenter packages still have susehelp
patches?  KDE:KDE3 packages perhaps?

Will

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Re: susehelp still needed?

Wolfgang Bauer
Am Dienstag, 11. April 2017, 14:53:01 schrieb Will Stephenson:
> KDE maintainers - do any current khelpcenter packages still have susehelp
> patches?  KDE:KDE3 packages perhaps?

Yes, both the KDE4 version in kdebase4-runtime, and the KF5 version (package
khelpcenter5).
And we patched KDE Frameworks5's kcmutils and kguiaddons to run susehelp
instead of khelpcenter.

I think we should consider dropping those patches though. Currently displaying
the help is completely broken in KDE applications when using a non-KDE desktop
(because susehelp-khelpcenter only supports KDE desktops).
There's even a bug report about this:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1018970

In that case, we could also drop the patch that renames the KF5 version to
khelpcenter5, and drop khelpcenter from kdebase4-runtime. KDE4 applications
should then just use the KF5 version too (like now via susehelp).

Kind Regards,
Wolfgang

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Re: susehelp still needed?

Ludwig Nussel
Wolfgang Bauer schrieb:

> Am Dienstag, 11. April 2017, 14:53:01 schrieb Will Stephenson:
>> KDE maintainers - do any current khelpcenter packages still have susehelp
>> patches?  KDE:KDE3 packages perhaps?
>
> Yes, both the KDE4 version in kdebase4-runtime, and the KF5 version (package
> khelpcenter5).
> And we patched KDE Frameworks5's kcmutils and kguiaddons to run susehelp
> instead of khelpcenter.
>
> I think we should consider dropping those patches though. Currently displaying
> the help is completely broken in KDE applications when using a non-KDE desktop
> (because susehelp-khelpcenter only supports KDE desktops).
> There's even a bug report about this:
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1018970
>
> In that case, we could also drop the patch that renames the KF5 version to
> khelpcenter5, and drop khelpcenter from kdebase4-runtime. KDE4 applications
> should then just use the KF5 version too (like now via susehelp).

So let's get rid of it. I've filed a delete request for Factory.

cu
Ludwig

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