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Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
Dear All

I have been comparing all different password managers for some time, and
run pwman on FreeBSD and Figaro's Password Manager on SuSE 10.1 for some
months (not satisfied by FPM). Now I have a fresh 10.2 installation and
I am looking for suggestions on the list.

It seems there are too few avaiable password managers on the SuSE
sources. What I need is pretty simple: I need a password manager that
either work as X application or as console application. As X application
it should use gtk2 (not gtk1) and better be dockable to the notification
area or run as gnome panel applet. That's all ^_^

pwman is not found on SuSE as wellas on packman/Guru package collection.
Actually I cannot find ANY password manager on official SuSE package
repository and packman/guru. Or I simply missed them?

Thank you very much in advance :)

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email.listen
Am Sun, 7. January 2007 15:44 schrieb Zhang Weiwu:

> Dear All
>
> I have been comparing all different password managers for some time, and
> run pwman on FreeBSD and Figaro's Password Manager on SuSE 10.1 for some
> months (not satisfied by FPM). Now I have a fresh 10.2 installation and
> I am looking for suggestions on the list.
>
> It seems there are too few avaiable password managers on the SuSE
> sources. What I need is pretty simple: I need a password manager that
> either work as X application or as console application. As X application
> it should use gtk2 (not gtk1) and better be dockable to the notification
> area or run as gnome panel applet. That's all ^_^

May be revelation will [1] fullfill your needs.
It's a gtk2 application and has a gnome-panel applet.
But afaik it is not for console use / don't accept console commands for
opening it's stored data.

>
> pwman is not found on SuSE as wellas on packman/Guru package collection.

You may compile it from the source tarball?
Such small applications will compile quite easy and flawless, mostly.

> Actually I cannot find ANY password manager on official SuSE package
> repository and packman/guru. Or I simply missed them?
Hhhm, there is at least kwallet, which definetely is on the SUSE repositories.
I would asume it's more the common 'needle in the haystack' phenomena. :-))

[1] http://oss.codepoet.no/revelation/

regards,
thomas
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Re: recommend me a password manager?

Jorge Fábregas-2
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On Sunday 07 January 2007 10:44 am, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> It seems there are too few avaiable password managers on the SuSE
> sources.

I highly recommend pwmanager. It comes with SUSE!  Well, at least it came on
SUSE 10.0 (which I'm using).

Jorge
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Re: recommend me a password manager?

Cristian Rodriguez R.-2
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Zhang Weiwu escribió:

> pwman is not found on SuSE.
I packaged in my home proyect "pwman3" for you ;) which is the new pwman
implemented on python, should work for you as well..


zyyper sa
http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2

zypper install pwman3

if dependencies are broken (f.e no package provides python-sqlite2)
wait a few minutes and zypper ref, dependencies are building atm,

cya;)



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Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
在 2007-01-07日的 22:05 -0300,Cristian Rodriguez R.写道:

> Zhang Weiwu escribió:
>
> > pwman is not found on SuSE.
> I packaged in my home proyect "pwman3" for you ;) which is the new pwman
> implemented on python, should work for you as well..
>
>
> zyyper sa
> http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
>
> zypper install pwman3
>
> if dependencies are broken (f.e no package provides python-sqlite2)
> wait a few minutes and zypper ref, dependencies are building atm,

Thank you very much. zypper on my host hangs there forever (probably
because of slow network), 3 hour later I had to kill it. Then start
"yast2 sw_single" and I can find pwman3 package avaiable, and then I
click and installed it;)

Here is the console output before zapper hangs, just in case someone
might wish to take a look.

joe:/home/zhangweiwu # zypper sa  http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
3931 zmd
ZENworks Management Daemon is running.
WARNING: this command will not synchronize changes.
Use rug or yast2 for that.
Determining http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2 source type...
http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2 is type YUM
Do you want to trust key id 3B3011B76B9D6523 openSUSE Build Service <[hidden email]> fingerprint:A09B553866A1C4E44EC752953B3011B76B9D6523 ? [y/n]: y
Import key 3B3011B76B9D6523 in trusted keyring? [y/n]:
[hangs]

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Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
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在 2007-01-07日的 23:09 +0100,email.listen@googlemail.com写道:

> Am Sun, 7. January 2007 15:44 schrieb Zhang Weiwu:
> > Dear All
> >
> > I have been comparing all different password managers for some time, and
> > run pwman on FreeBSD and Figaro's Password Manager on SuSE 10.1 for some
> > months (not satisfied by FPM). Now I have a fresh 10.2 installation and
> > I am looking for suggestions on the list.
> >
> > It seems there are too few avaiable password managers on the SuSE
> > sources. What I need is pretty simple: I need a password manager that
> > either work as X application or as console application. As X application
> > it should use gtk2 (not gtk1) and better be dockable to the notification
> > area or run as gnome panel applet. That's all ^_^
>
> May be revelation will [1] fullfill your needs.
> It's a gtk2 application and has a gnome-panel applet.
> But afaik it is not for console use / don't accept console commands for
> opening it's stored data.
>
> >
> > pwman is not found on SuSE as wellas on packman/Guru package collection.
>
> You may compile it from the source tarball?
> Such small applications will compile quite easy and flawless, mostly.

Thank you for your nice recommendation. I truly wish to try it a bit
because from the screenshot looks very nice to me and has ALL features I
need (and I won't need to manually transfer my FPM password set to it).

I cannot succesfully compile it yet, because it complain for a package
'gnome-python-2.0' not found. This package do not exist on SuSE 10.2 but
a similiar package called 'gnome-python-desktop' is already installed.

I am a C language newbie plus compiler / Makefile stuff newbie, I am
afraid tweak Makefile this is not what I can handle. Would be very glad
if someone make an rpm package out of this package.

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Cristian Rodriguez R.-2
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Zhang Weiwu escribió:

> Thank you very much. zypper on my host hangs there forever (probably
> because of slow network), 3 hour later I had to kill it. Then start
> "yast2 sw_single" and I can find pwman3 package avaiable, and then I
> click and installed it;)
>
> Here is the console output before zapper hangs, just in case someone
> might wish to take a look.
>
> joe:/home/zhangweiwu # zypper sa  http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
> 3931 zmd
> ZENworks Management Daemon is running.
> WARNING: this command will not synchronize changes.
stop zenworks

/etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop && chkconfig novell-zmd off


> Import key 3B3011B76B9D6523 in trusted keyring? [y/n]:
> [hangs]

If you dont enter y or n here, zypper hangs, known bug, see

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232250 .. you MUST enter y
or n :)

unfortunately my pwman3 package compiles, install, but does not work in
10.2, seems python-sqlite2 module in the buildservice is too old, and
the (now built-in) sqlite3 python 2.5 module is completely broken see :

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=228733

:(






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Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
在 2007-01-08一的 03:31 -0300,Cristian Rodriguez R.写道:

> Zhang Weiwu escribió:
>
> > Thank you very much. zypper on my host hangs there forever (probably
> > because of slow network), 3 hour later I had to kill it. Then start
> > "yast2 sw_single" and I can find pwman3 package avaiable, and then I
> > click and installed it;)
> >
> > Here is the console output before zapper hangs, just in case someone
> > might wish to take a look.
> >
> > joe:/home/zhangweiwu # zypper sa  http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
> > 3931 zmd
> > ZENworks Management Daemon is running.
> > WARNING: this command will not synchronize changes.
>
> stop zenworks
>
> /etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop && chkconfig novell-zmd off
>
>
> > Import key 3B3011B76B9D6523 in trusted keyring? [y/n]:
> > [hangs]
>
> If you dont enter y or n here, zypper hangs, known bug, see
>
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=232250 .. you MUST enter y
> or n :)
>
> unfortunately my pwman3 package compiles, install, but does not work in
> 10.2, seems python-sqlite2 module in the buildservice is too old, and
> the (now built-in) sqlite3 python 2.5 module is completely broken see :
>
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=228733
>
> :(

Yes, I can confirm the pwman3 on my host die with this message:
zhangweiwu@joe:~> pwman3
Error: You can only execute one statement at a time.

I don't particularly like pwman3's idea. pwman was written in C and
store password in a file, now pwman3 come with a lot of dependencies and
who would have 1000+ password to manage that they need a SQL database,
and what relational data is there in a password database? Emm, I don't
understand. Perhaps pwman3 is only written because the author wish to
try sqlite3 and get a hand on Python. People use console applications
because they are simple, now they ain't anymore.

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email.listen
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Am Mon, 8. January 2007 07:10 schrieb Zhang Weiwu:

> 在 2007-01-07日的 23:09 +0100,email.listen@googlemail.com写道:
>
> > Am Sun, 7. January 2007 15:44 schrieb Zhang Weiwu:
> > > Dear All
> > >
> > > I have been comparing all different password managers for some time,
> > > and run pwman on FreeBSD and Figaro's Password Manager on SuSE 10.1 for
> > > some months (not satisfied by FPM). Now I have a fresh 10.2
> > > installation and I am looking for suggestions on the list.
> > >
> > > It seems there are too few avaiable password managers on the SuSE
> > > sources. What I need is pretty simple: I need a password manager that
> > > either work as X application or as console application. As X
> > > application it should use gtk2 (not gtk1) and better be dockable to the
> > > notification area or run as gnome panel applet. That's all ^_^
> >
> > May be revelation will [1] fullfill your needs.
> > It's a gtk2 application and has a gnome-panel applet.
> > But afaik it is not for console use / don't accept console commands for
> > opening it's stored data.
> >
> > > pwman is not found on SuSE as wellas on packman/Guru package
> > > collection.
> >
> > You may compile it from the source tarball?
> > Such small applications will compile quite easy and flawless, mostly.
>
> Thank you for your nice recommendation. I truly wish to try it a bit
> because from the screenshot looks very nice to me and has ALL features I
> need (and I won't need to manually transfer my FPM password set to it).
Did you have a look at:
http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories

May be there is a site which has a revelation rpm.

>
> I cannot succesfully compile it yet, because it complain for a package
> 'gnome-python-2.0' not found. This package do not exist on SuSE 10.2 but
> a similiar package called 'gnome-python-desktop' is already installed.

I was thinking of compiling pwman (which is a console application and don't
need gui development libs as kde and gnome apps do) not of revelation. Pardon
me for not making this clear enough.

>
> I am a C language newbie plus compiler / Makefile stuff newbie, I am
> afraid tweak Makefile this is not what I can handle. Would be very glad
> if someone make an rpm package out of this package.
I haven't compiled revelation so far.
It seems that you need to install at least one of the following development
rpm's:

python-gnome2-dev - Python bindings for the GNOME desktop environment
python-gnome2-desktop-dev - Python bindings for the GNOME desktop environment
python-gnome2-extras-dev - Python bindings for the GNOME desktop environment


But I would suggest to have a closer look at the 'additional repositories'
first.

regards,
thomas
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Cristian Rodriguez R.-2
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Zhang Weiwu escribió:

> Yes, I can confirm the pwman3 on my host die with this message:
> zhangweiwu@joe:~> pwman3
> Error: You can only execute one statement at a time.

yes, that is the problem. since Im no python wizard, need to gigure how
to solve it.

>
> I don't particularly like pwman3's idea. pwman was written in C and
> store password in a file,

the C version is still mantained by other people ...and it is building
in the same repository I told you before ;)

should be online in a while, tell me if that works for you ;-) package
is called "pwman".





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Bernhard Walle-2
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* Zhang Weiwu <[hidden email]> [2007-01-07 15:44]:
>
> It seems there are too few avaiable password managers on the SuSE
> sources. What I need is pretty simple: I need a password manager that
> either work as X application or as console application. As X application
> it should use gtk2 (not gtk1) and better be dockable to the notification
> area or run as gnome panel applet. That's all ^_^

Qt but noch KDE: http://qpamat.berlios.de. You found instructions on
the web page how to find a suitable SUSE package.


Regards,
Bernhard

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Bugzilla from pnemec@suse.cz
Dne Monday 08 January 2007 10:23 Bernhard Walle napsal(a):
> * Zhang Weiwu <[hidden email]> [2007-01-07 15:44]:
> > It seems there are too few avaiable password managers on the SuSE
> > sources. What I need is pretty simple: I need a password manager that
> > either work as X application or as console application. As X application
> > it should use gtk2 (not gtk1) and better be dockable to the notification
> > area or run as gnome panel applet. That's all ^_^
>
> Qt but noch KDE: http://qpamat.berlios.de. You found instructions on
> the web page how to find a suitable SUSE package.

Just for record

Nearly same interface, but writen in java (which is plus for me) KisKis
http://kiskis.sourceforge.net/ (scroll down for screenshot)

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hello,

i prefer keepassx, a port from keepass for windows. can be found on
https://sf.net

Zhang Weiwu schrieb:

> 在 2007-01-07日的 22:05 -0300,Cristian Rodriguez R.写道:
>> Zhang Weiwu escribió:
>>
>>> pwman is not found on SuSE.
>> I packaged in my home proyect "pwman3" for you ;) which is the new pwman
>> implemented on python, should work for you as well..
>>
>>
>> zyyper sa
>> http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
>>
>> zypper install pwman3
>>
>> if dependencies are broken (f.e no package provides python-sqlite2)
>> wait a few minutes and zypper ref, dependencies are building atm,
>
> Thank you very much. zypper on my host hangs there forever (probably
> because of slow network), 3 hour later I had to kill it. Then start
> "yast2 sw_single" and I can find pwman3 package avaiable, and then I
> click and installed it;)
>
> Here is the console output before zapper hangs, just in case someone
> might wish to take a look.
>
> joe:/home/zhangweiwu # zypper sa
http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
> 3931 zmd
> ZENworks Management Daemon is running.
> WARNING: this command will not synchronize changes.
> Use rug or yast2 for that.
> Determining
http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
source type...
> http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
is type YUM
> Do you want to trust key id 3B3011B76B9D6523 openSUSE Build Service
<[hidden email]>
fingerprint:A09B553866A1C4E44EC752953B3011B76B9D6523 ? [y/n]: y
> Import key 3B3011B76B9D6523 in trusted keyring? [y/n]:
> [hangs]
>

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Zhang Weiwu, Beijing
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在 2007-01-08一的 05:22 -0300,Cristian Rodriguez R.写道:

> Zhang Weiwu escribió:
>
> > Yes, I can confirm the pwman3 on my host die with this message:
> > zhangweiwu@joe:~> pwman3
> > Error: You can only execute one statement at a time.
>
> yes, that is the problem. since Im no python wizard, need to gigure how
> to solve it.
>
> >
> > I don't particularly like pwman3's idea. pwman was written in C and
> > store password in a file,
>
> the C version is still mantained by other people ...and it is building
> in the same repository I told you before ;)
>
> should be online in a while, tell me if that works for you ;-) package
> is called "pwman".

Today I have discovered this appllication appear in your repository and
installed it (tested). Result is fine, this application works!

Thanks!

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