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Nate Pearlstein-2
Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.

I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or
less after starting video on cnn.


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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

DenverD-2
On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
> Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.
>
> I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or
> less after starting video on cnn.

zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with
intel graphics..

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Nate Pearlstein-2
On 05/08/2012 11:09 AM, DenverD wrote:

> On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
>> Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.
>>
>> I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or
>> less after starting video on cnn.
>
> zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with
> intel graphics..
>
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Mine are x86_64 opensuse 12.1 one owth nvidia gfx the other with
integrated intel gfx i915

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

DenverD-2
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On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:
> On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
>> Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.
>>
>> I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or
>> less after starting video on cnn.
>
> zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with
> intel graphics..

well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..

the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three
tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Anders Johansson-9
On Tuesday 08 May 2012 22:23:51 DenverD wrote:

> On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:
> > On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
> >> Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.
> >>
> >> I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or
> >> less after starting video on cnn.
> >
> > zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with
> > intel graphics..
>
> well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..
>
> the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three
> tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233

I see problems with the new flash player too, but I'm not sure if downgrading
to a version with known security holes with exploits in the wild is the best
solution for it

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

scott-268
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

> On Tuesday 08 May 2012 22:23:51 DenverD wrote:
> > On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:
> > > On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
> > >> Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update 11.2.202.235.
> > >>
> > >> I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in seconds or
> > >> less after starting video on cnn.
> > >
> > > zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4 with
> > > intel graphics..
> >
> > well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..
> >
> > the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three
> > tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233

> I see problems with the new flash player too, but I'm not sure if downgrading
> to a version with known security holes with exploits in the wild is the best
> solution for it

on the theory that the more ppl chime in here the better
statistics we'll get i'll say i saw this thread, my zypper up
showed me a new flash coming down, so i went to cnn.com and
played video for two hours at least -- never a hiccup

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Ricardo Chung
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012 04:24:30 PM sc wrote:

> On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 22:23:51 DenverD wrote:
> > > On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:
> > > > On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
> > > >> Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update
> > > >> 11.2.202.235.
> > > >>
> > > >> I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in
> > > >> seconds or
> > > >> less after starting video on cnn.
> > > >
> > > > zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4
> > > > with
> > > > intel graphics..
> > >
> > > well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..
> > >
> > > the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three
> > > tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233
> >
> > I see problems with the new flash player too, but I'm not sure if
> > downgrading to a version with known security holes with exploits in the
> > wild is the best solution for it
>
> on the theory that the more ppl chime in here the better
> statistics we'll get i'll say i saw this thread, my zypper up
> showed me a new flash coming down, so i went to cnn.com and
> played video for two hours at least -- never a hiccup

Sure, something is going wrong with plugin-flash-player update 11.2.202.235.
It crashes on openSUSE KDE 64 bit.

If you go directly to YouTube probably HTML5 will do the job instead Adobe
flash-player. Reloading the web page doesn't make it better. I already sent a
report to Adobe.

I'll be back later with report on 32 bit GNOME and KDE

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Ricardo Chung
In reply to this post by scott-268
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012 04:24:30 PM sc wrote:

> On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 22:23:51 DenverD wrote:
> > > On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:
> > > > On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
> > > >> Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update
> > > >> 11.2.202.235.
> > > >>
> > > >> I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in
> > > >> seconds or
> > > >> less after starting video on cnn.
> > > >
> > > > zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4
> > > > with
> > > > intel graphics..
> > >
> > > well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..
> > >
> > > the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three
> > > tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233
> >
> > I see problems with the new flash player too, but I'm not sure if
> > downgrading to a version with known security holes with exploits in the
> > wild is the best solution for it
>
> on the theory that the more ppl chime in here the better
> statistics we'll get i'll say i saw this thread, my zypper up
> showed me a new flash coming down, so i went to cnn.com and
> played video for two hours at least -- never a hiccup

openSUSE 12.1 KDE or GNOME 32 bit doesn't look negatively impacted by Adobe
Flash-Player 11.2.201.235 updates (plugins included). Both, KDE and GNOME 32
bit works pretty fine post updates and there is no crashes watching Flash
videos.

So, only 64 bit systems are affected by the broken Flash-Player updates
(11.2.202.235). It doesn't matter how many webpage reloads Flash video crashes
anyway.

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

DenverD-2
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On 05/08/2012 11:24 PM, sc wrote:
> i went to cnn.com and played video for two hours at least -- never a hiccup

after noting trouble and reverting to .233, last night i saw that some
video at cnn was NO problem--but one particular feed (live coverage of a
court case) caused instant flash crash, _every_ time...even AFTER
reverting to .233

so, maybe it was not a pure .235 problem ??

the live feed is at
http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1 which
often has two or more to choose from and i found that only one of four
offered feeds last evening caused instant crash.

strange.

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Marcus Meissner
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On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 11:56:38PM -0500, Ricardo Chung wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 08, 2012 04:24:30 PM sc wrote:
> > On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 22:23:51 DenverD wrote:
> > > > On 05/08/2012 05:09 PM, DenverD wrote:
> > > > > On 05/08/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Pearlstein wrote:
> > > > >> Anyone else having trouble with the latest flash update
> > > > >> 11.2.202.235.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I had to revert to 11.2.202.233 as the new one crashes in
> > > > >> seconds or
> > > > >> less after starting video on cnn.
> > > > >
> > > > > zero problems with 11.2.202.235-14.1 on my 32 bit openSUSE 11.4
> > > > > with
> > > > > intel graphics..
> > > >
> > > > well, i spoke (wrote) too soon..
> > > >
> > > > the flash pig named 11.2.202.235 crashes around 1 out of every three
> > > > tries (no matter where)...have rolled back to .233
> > >
> > > I see problems with the new flash player too, but I'm not sure if
> > > downgrading to a version with known security holes with exploits in the
> > > wild is the best solution for it
> >
> > on the theory that the more ppl chime in here the better
> > statistics we'll get i'll say i saw this thread, my zypper up
> > showed me a new flash coming down, so i went to cnn.com and
> > played video for two hours at least -- never a hiccup
>
> Sure, something is going wrong with plugin-flash-player update 11.2.202.235.
> It crashes on openSUSE KDE 64 bit.
>
> If you go directly to YouTube probably HTML5 will do the job instead Adobe
> flash-player. Reloading the web page doesn't make it better. I already sent a
> report to Adobe.
>
> I'll be back later with report on 32 bit GNOME and KDE

Please open a bugreport to collect this information, on the mailinglist
it will be lost and gone in some days.

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

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It's working fine on two 12.1  x64 systems here. I use it extensively.
No crashing no weirdness.

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

phanisvara das
On Wed, 09 May 2012 15:07:00 +0530, Steven Hess <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

> It's working fine on two 12.1  x64 systems here. I use it extensively.
> No crashing no weirdness.
>

that's why a bug report would be the way to go -- to find out what causes  
this. i also don't have problems with the new flash update (but don't use  
it extensively).

in a proper bug report once could figure out what actually causes these  
crashes: x86_64, kernel version, video driver, or what.

i won't raise one though, because i haven't experienced the problem yet. i  
would comment & supply my system's information, as an example where it  
doesn't crash.

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Togan Muftuoglu-3
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On 05/11/2012 07:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 10/05/12 23:59, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
>>>
>> Can't remember exactly but most probably I have chosen it myself among
>> many other things
>
> OK, fair enough. But out of curiosity, why did you select -default? Any
> particular reason?

Habit I guess, acccept for netbooks I always choose default

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Basil Chupin-2
On 11/05/12 16:53, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
> On 05/11/2012 07:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 10/05/12 23:59, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
>>> Can't remember exactly but most probably I have chosen it myself among
>>> many other things
>> OK, fair enough. But out of curiosity, why did you select -default? Any
>> particular reason?
> Habit I guess, acccept for netbooks I always choose default

OK, thanks.

BC


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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

George Olson (SUSE list)
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On 05/10/2012 07:11 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 10/05/12 20:27, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
>> On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:
>>> Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages
>>> crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones,
>>> they work fine.
>> Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64
>>
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat>
>
>
> Absolutely no problems with this video using 11.2.202.235 (x86_64 system
> with nVidia 295.49 driver) and Firefox 12.0 - and this with Use Hardware
> Acceleration selected.
>
> BC
>

Sorry for the newb question, but here goes. Where do you select "use
hardware acceleration"? Is this an application specific selection, or
something that is done in configuration?


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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Basil Chupin-2
On 12/05/12 19:31, George Olson wrote:

> On 05/10/2012 07:11 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 10/05/12 20:27, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
>>> On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:
>>>> Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages
>>>> crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones,
>>>> they work fine.
>>> Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64
>>>
>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat>
>>
>>
>> Absolutely no problems with this video using 11.2.202.235 (x86_64 system
>> with nVidia 295.49 driver) and Firefox 12.0 - and this with Use Hardware
>> Acceleration selected.
>>
>> BC
>>
>
> Sorry for the newb question, but here goes. Where do you select "use
> hardware acceleration"? Is this an application specific selection, or
> something that is done in configuration?

When you are on the video itself - ie, about to actually try and play
it, for example - right-click and you will see Flash's "drop-down" menu
(if you want to call it that) and you will see the tick box re the
Hardware Acceleration.

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Togan Muftuoglu-3
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On 05/11/2012 09:08 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 11/05/12 16:53, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
>> On 05/11/2012 07:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> On 10/05/12 23:59, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
>>>> Can't remember exactly but most probably I have chosen it myself among
>>>> many other things
>>> OK, fair enough. But out of curiosity, why did you select -default? Any
>>> particular reason?
>> Habit I guess, acccept for netbooks I always choose default
>
> OK, thanks.

Now it is getting interesting, with desktop kernel ( 3.3.5-1-desktop )
flash is not crashing ( that is 235) with or without hardware
accelaration. I will need to try it with default kernel as well to see
if there might me a kernel related issue going on.

Does anybody know when the flash crashes where does it dump the garbage

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George Olson (SUSE list)
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On 05/12/2012 05:36 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

> On 12/05/12 19:31, George Olson wrote:
>> On 05/10/2012 07:11 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> On 10/05/12 20:27, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
>>>> On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:
>>>>> Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages
>>>>> crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233 ones,
>>>>> they work fine.
>>>> Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat>
>>>
>>>
>>> Absolutely no problems with this video using 11.2.202.235 (x86_64 system
>>> with nVidia 295.49 driver) and Firefox 12.0 - and this with Use Hardware
>>> Acceleration selected.
>>>
>>> BC
>>>
>>
>> Sorry for the newb question, but here goes. Where do you select "use
>> hardware acceleration"? Is this an application specific selection, or
>> something that is done in configuration?
>
> When you are on the video itself - ie, about to actually try and play
> it, for example - right-click and you will see Flash's "drop-down" menu
> (if you want to call it that) and you will see the tick box re the
> Hardware Acceleration.
>
> BC
>
>
Ah, Ok I see. Thanks.

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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Basil Chupin-2
On 12/05/12 23:06, George Olson wrote:

> On 05/12/2012 05:36 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 12/05/12 19:31, George Olson wrote:
>>> On 05/10/2012 07:11 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/12 20:27, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
>>>>> On 05/10/2012 12:02 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:
>>>>>> Same problem here. Asus N53S with optimus. The latest flah packages
>>>>>> crash both with nvidia and with intel card. Reverted back to 233
>>>>>> ones,
>>>>>> they work fine.
>>>>> Same here with intel 915 builtin x86_64
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHukNX7XLc&feature=g-feat>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely no problems with this video using 11.2.202.235 (x86_64
>>>> system
>>>> with nVidia 295.49 driver) and Firefox 12.0 - and this with Use
>>>> Hardware
>>>> Acceleration selected.
>>>>
>>>> BC
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for the newb question, but here goes. Where do you select "use
>>> hardware acceleration"? Is this an application specific selection, or
>>> something that is done in configuration?
>>
>> When you are on the video itself - ie, about to actually try and play
>> it, for example - right-click and you will see Flash's "drop-down" menu
>> (if you want to call it that) and you will see the tick box re the
>> Hardware Acceleration.
>>
>> BC
>>
>>
> Ah, Ok I see. Thanks.

No problemo. A pleasure to be of assistance.

BC


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Re: new flash update crashes in seconds watching cnn video

Ricardo Chung
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On Saturday, May 12, 2012 01:33:28 PM Togan Muftuoglu wrote:

> On 05/11/2012 09:08 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> > On 11/05/12 16:53, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
> >> On 05/11/2012 07:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> >>> On 10/05/12 23:59, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
> >>>> Can't remember exactly but most probably I have chosen it myself
> >>>> among
> >>>> many other things
> >>>
> >>> OK, fair enough. But out of curiosity, why did you select -default?
> >>> Any
> >>> particular reason?
> >>
> >> Habit I guess, acccept for netbooks I always choose default
> >
> > OK, thanks.
>
> Now it is getting interesting, with desktop kernel ( 3.3.5-1-desktop )
> flash is not crashing ( that is 235) with or without hardware
> accelaration. I will need to try it with default kernel as well to see
> if there might me a kernel related issue going on.
>
> Does anybody know when the flash crashes where does it dump the garbage
>
> Togan

The new 11.2.x.235 Flash intermitent crashes on different situations. Mostly
when video is redirected to YouTube page from another website(  video
embedded). Sometimes on YouTube site you could find one or another crashing (a
reload could make it work ocassionally)

I have been testing it on other sites like Vimeo, Metacafe, etc. It shows more
crashes than YouTube. Not sure why.

So far  my tests and reports are coming from openSUSE 12.1 KDE 4.x..x and
GNOME 3 (64 bit often 32 bit less crashes) and Firefox 12.0. I will check soon
other operating systems to isolate it from distros specific packaging as soon
it's possible.

Hope it could give you any idea or leads.

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