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konsole tab behaviour

Roger Whittaker-2
Am I right in thinking that something has changed (to me rather
drastically for the worse) in the latest update
(konsole-17.04.2-1.2.x86_64, Tumbleweed 20170613)?

Previously there was an empty space on the tab bar to the right of the
open tabs where a double click would open a new tab - this seems to
have gone away.

Is there any configuration change that will get the old behaviour back
(I can't see one)?


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Re: konsole tab behaviour

Roger Oberholtzer-2
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Roger Whittaker
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> Am I right in thinking that something has changed (to me rather
> drastically for the worse) in the latest update
> (konsole-17.04.2-1.2.x86_64, Tumbleweed 20170613)?
>
> Previously there was an empty space on the tab bar to the right of the
> open tabs where a double click would open a new tab - this seems to
> have gone away.

I have always seen an icon on the left to add a tab, and one on the
right to delete the current tab. Never an empty space.

These need to be enabled in konsole in Settings->Configure Konsole->TabBar

In a new KDE environment, they are off by default.

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Re: konsole tab behaviour

Roger Whittaker-2
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:25:24AM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

> I have always seen an icon on the left to add a tab, and one on the
> right to delete the current tab. Never an empty space.

Previously, if, for instance there was only one tab open, it extended
only half the width of the window.  Double clicking on the part of the
tab bar that was not covered by that tab would open a new tab.

> These need to be enabled in konsole in Settings->Configure
> Konsole->TabBar

I've done this now, but it's not as convenient.


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Re: konsole tab behaviour

Wolfgang Bauer
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Am Freitag, 16. Juni 2017, 10:10:34 schrieb Roger Whittaker:
> Am I right in thinking that something has changed (to me rather
> drastically for the worse) in the latest update
> (konsole-17.04.2-1.2.x86_64, Tumbleweed 20170613)?

It's caused by a change in Qt 5.9.0:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380879
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-61362

> Is there any configuration change that will get the old behaviour back
> (I can't see one)?

Apparently a workaround would be to enable "Center tabbar tabs" in the breeze
widget style settings.

Or enable the "add tab"/"delete tab" buttons in Konsole's settings as
mentioned by Roger Oberholtzer.

Kind Regards,
Wolfgang

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Re: konsole tab behaviour

Roger Whittaker-2
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:40:14AM +0200, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:

> It's caused by a change in Qt 5.9.0:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380879
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-61362

Thanks for this.

> Apparently a workaround would be to enable "Center tabbar tabs" in
> the breeze widget style settings.

Oddly enough this makes the first tab right-aligned, with the
"clickable area" on the left - a mirror image of the previous
behaviour.

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Re: konsole tab behaviour

Anton Aylward-2
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On 16/06/17 05:34 AM, Roger Whittaker wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:25:24AM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
>
>> I have always seen an icon on the left to add a tab, and one on the
>> right to delete the current tab. Never an empty space.
>
> Previously, if, for instance there was only one tab open, it extended
> only half the width of the window.  Double clicking on the part of the
> tab bar that was not covered by that tab would open a new tab.
>
>> These need to be enabled in konsole in Settings->Configure
>> Konsole->TabBar
>
> I've done this now, but it's not as convenient.

I don't see what your point is.
I'm now running Leap 42.2 and myu screen is wide enough )1280px) that even with
5 tabs open there still empty space, and double clicking in the space creates
another tab.

Oops, there are 6 more!
And the tab width shrinks so there's always some blank space.

Repository     : openSUSE-Leap-42.2-Update
Name           : konsole
Version        : 16.08.2-6.1


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Re: konsole tab behaviour

Wolfgang Bauer
Am Dienstag, 20. Juni 2017, 11:12:35 schrieb Anton Aylward:
> I don't see what your point is.

And what is your point exactly?

This thread is about Tumbleweed (not Leap 42.2), with the latest Konsole
17.04.2 and Qt 5.9.0.

As mentioned there was a change in Qt 5.9.0 (released recently), that makes
Konsole's tabs take up all the available space in the tab bar.
So, even if your screen is 10000px wide and you only have one or two Konsole
tabs open, there won't be any empty space (where you could double-click to
open a new tab).

You won't see this in 42.2 of course though, which comes with Qt 5.6.1.
(as it's caused by a change in Qt 5.9.0)

Kind Regards,
Wolfgang

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Re: konsole tab behaviour

Anton Aylward-2
On 20/06/17 04:25 PM, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 20. Juni 2017, 11:12:35 schrieb Anton Aylward:
>> I don't see what your point is.
>
> And what is your point exactly?
>
> This thread is about Tumbleweed (not Leap 42.2), with the latest Konsole
> 17.04.2 and Qt 5.9.0.
>
> As mentioned there was a change in Qt 5.9.0 (released recently), that makes
> Konsole's tabs take up all the available space in the tab bar.
> So, even if your screen is 10000px wide and you only have one or two Konsole
> tabs open, there won't be any empty space (where you could double-click to
> open a new tab).
>
> You won't see this in 42.2 of course though, which comes with Qt 5.6.1.
> (as it's caused by a change in Qt 5.9.0)

Thank you for the clarification.

I recall there was a Qt4 config editor.  I used it a few times with some
frustration as the multitude of options available were not, as is the case with
something like YaST, made available as prompts.  I suppose they are documented
for developers, but I'm not a developer.

I wonder of a similar tool exists for Qt5, and/or there is an option/setting
that impacts such matters as discussed above?
For example, in my 42.2 version there is a "user defined stylesheet" option that
offers no prompt.  Googling, github seems to imply that the stylesheet can
affect the width of the tabs..

Has anyone investigated this for the version of Konsole of which you speak, of
which you use?


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