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Felix Miata-3
As might be noticed in
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-08/msg00407.html and
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1025725
and elsewhere, the online upgrade procedure is anything but foolproof. In that
mailing list thread at
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-08/msg00410.html
I noted my variations on the described procedure intended to make it more
reliable. I'm considering including components of my procedure as alternative
options in the "official" offline procedure in the wiki, essentially replacing

        zypper dup

with at a minimum

        zypper in zypper libzypp rpm libsolv-tools
        zypper dup

Any comments?
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Re: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed_upgrade

Carlos E. R.-2
On 2017-08-17 02:42, Felix Miata wrote:

> As might be noticed in
> https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-08/msg00407.html and
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1025725
> and elsewhere, the online upgrade procedure is anything but foolproof. In that
> mailing list thread at
> https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-08/msg00410.html
> I noted my variations on the described procedure intended to make it more
> reliable. I'm considering including components of my procedure as alternative
> options in the "official" offline procedure in the wiki, essentially replacing
>
> zypper dup
>
> with at a minimum
>
> zypper in zypper libzypp rpm libsolv-tools
> zypper dup
>
> Any comments?
We still lack official confirmation of what is the alleged "upgrade
workflow" by the assignee with a suse.de address in the bugzilla.

Any upgrade method we document could be said "invalid" and bugs closed.

We need that information before correcting the wiki.


And no, the «"official" offline procedure in the wiki» is not official
either, as it was me who wrote it - unless it is some other article I'm
not aware of.

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Re: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed_upgrade

Felix Miata-3
Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-08-16 03:44 (UTC+0200):

> We still lack official confirmation of what is the alleged "upgrade
> workflow" by the assignee with a suse.de address in the bugzilla.

> Any upgrade method we document could be said "invalid" and bugs closed.

> We need that information before correcting the wiki.

> And no, the «"official" offline procedure in the wiki» is not official

That's why I stuck 'official' in quotes.

> either, as it was me who wrote it - unless it is some other article I'm
> not aware of.

I'm not sure there is any official online procedure for upgrading from any
distribution release to TW. The "official" procedure(s) may be limited to what
<https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/startup/html/book.opensuse.startup/cha.inst.html#sec.i.yast2.method>
describes.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=upgrade+from+opensuse+distribution+release+to+tumbleweed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial>
turns up no opensuse.org hits among the first 50.
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Re: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed_upgrade

PatrickD Garvey
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Felix Miata <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-08-16 03:44 (UTC+0200):
>
>> We still lack official confirmation of what is the alleged "upgrade
>> workflow" by the assignee with a suse.de address in the bugzilla.
>
>> Any upgrade method we document could be said "invalid" and bugs closed.
>
>> We need that information before correcting the wiki.
>
>> And no, the «"official" offline procedure in the wiki» is not official
>
> That's why I stuck 'official' in quotes.
>
>> either, as it was me who wrote it - unless it is some other article I'm
>> not aware of.
>
> I'm not sure there is any official online procedure for upgrading from any
> distribution release to TW. The "official" procedure(s) may be limited to what
> <https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/startup/html/book.opensuse.startup/cha.inst.html#sec.i.yast2.method>
> describes.
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=upgrade+from+opensuse+distribution+release+to+tumbleweed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial>
> turns up no opensuse.org hits among the first 50.
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Perhaps this issue would get more visibility if it was discussed on
the opensuse-factory list? I find the opensuse-wiki list is not
followed closely by those that maintain the package management
software.
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Re: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed_upgrade

Carlos E. R.-2
On 2017-09-03 23:01, PatrickD Garvey wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Felix Miata <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-08-16 03:44 (UTC+0200):
>>
>>> We still lack official confirmation of what is the alleged "upgrade
>>> workflow" by the assignee with a suse.de address in the bugzilla.
>>
>>> Any upgrade method we document could be said "invalid" and bugs closed.
>>
>>> We need that information before correcting the wiki.
>>
>>> And no, the «"official" offline procedure in the wiki» is not official
>>
>> That's why I stuck 'official' in quotes.
>>
>>> either, as it was me who wrote it - unless it is some other article I'm
>>> not aware of.
>>
>> I'm not sure there is any official online procedure for upgrading from any
>> distribution release to TW. The "official" procedure(s) may be limited to what
>> <https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/startup/html/book.opensuse.startup/cha.inst.html#sec.i.yast2.method>
>> describes.
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=upgrade+from+opensuse+distribution+release+to+tumbleweed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial>
>> turns up no opensuse.org hits among the first 50.

> Perhaps this issue would get more visibility if it was discussed on
> the opensuse-factory list? I find the opensuse-wiki list is not
> followed closely by those that maintain the package management
> software.

It was asked and ignored:

Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:00:06 +0200
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [opensuse-factory] zypper dup and the "upgrade workflow"


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Re: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed_upgrade

PatrickD Garvey
On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Carlos E. R.
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 2017-09-03 23:01, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Felix Miata <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-08-16 03:44 (UTC+0200):
>>>
>>>> We still lack official confirmation of what is the alleged "upgrade
>>>> workflow" by the assignee with a suse.de address in the bugzilla.
>>>
>>>> Any upgrade method we document could be said "invalid" and bugs closed.
>>>
>>>> We need that information before correcting the wiki.
>>>
>>>> And no, the «"official" offline procedure in the wiki» is not official
>>>
>>> That's why I stuck 'official' in quotes.
>>>
>>>> either, as it was me who wrote it - unless it is some other article I'm
>>>> not aware of.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure there is any official online procedure for upgrading from any
>>> distribution release to TW. The "official" procedure(s) may be limited to what
>>> <https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/startup/html/book.opensuse.startup/cha.inst.html#sec.i.yast2.method>
>>> describes.
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=upgrade+from+opensuse+distribution+release+to+tumbleweed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial>
>>> turns up no opensuse.org hits among the first 50.
>
>
>> Perhaps this issue would get more visibility if it was discussed on
>> the opensuse-factory list? I find the opensuse-wiki list is not
>> followed closely by those that maintain the package management
>> software.
>
> It was asked and ignored:
>

Thanks for trying.
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Re: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed_upgrade

Tristan Miller
Greetings.

On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 10:47:34 -0700, PatrickD Garvey
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Perhaps this issue would get more visibility if it was discussed on
> >> the opensuse-factory list? I find the opensuse-wiki list is not
> >> followed closely by those that maintain the package management
> >> software.  
> >
> > It was asked and ignored:
>
> Thanks for trying.

You're welcome.

Regards,
Tristan

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