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Bugzilla from diacobel@yahoo.com
I posted here a couple of weeks ago about dual booting 11.1 and Windows 7.  I am still unable to boot into the Win7 partition from grub.  I have googled extensively with no success.  The faq on the Grub site is way outdated and still discusses issues with RH7 and using drives larger than 8G.  Has anyone had success dual booting openSUSE 11.1 and Windows 7.  If not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one out?  I have set up SuSE machines to dual boot into Windows since SuSE 6.1 and Windows 95 but am stumped on this one.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Dave

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Re: dual boot issues

Rajko M.
On Sunday 25 January 2009 07:39:42 am Dave wrote:

> I posted here a couple of weeks ago about dual booting 11.1 and Windows 7.
> I am still unable to boot into the Win7 partition from grub.  I have
> googled extensively with no success.  The faq on the Grub site is way
> outdated and still discusses issues with RH7 and using drives larger than
> 8G.  Has anyone had success dual booting openSUSE 11.1 and Windows 7.  If
> not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one out?  I have
> set up SuSE machines to dual boot into Windows since SuSE 6.1 and Windows
> 95 but am stumped on this one.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Dave

You got couple of answers:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg03415.html
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg03484.html

Reading previous posts:
   ***  
>> Voyager:/home/dave # mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 /windows/C
>> Unexpected clusters per mft record (-1).
>> Failed to mount 'dev/sdd1': Invalid arguement
   ***
You can copy console output, it saves typing and typos /dev/sdd1 and
arguement. Just highlight text as any other, go to email client, position
cursor where you want to copy text and press middle button (scroll wheel, or
both left and right button at the same time), and your console text will
appear in email.

According to the few posts in the Internet, your Windows partition is damaged.
It happened after boot loader was installed in MBR, so try to fix it using
rescue console on Windows 7 disk. I guess that command is 'fixmbr'
or 'fixboot', and then reinstall GRUB.

If it happens the same problem again please file bug report.

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Re: dual boot issues

Bugzilla from diacobel@yahoo.com
Success!

The boot sector was reported as corrupted by the Windows 7 repair utilities.  Windows 7 repaired the boot sector and rebooted.  I expected to go right back into windows after the reboot but instead got a pleasant surprise and was back at the grub boot menu.  I selected Windows, grub took me to the Windows partition, and Windows booted without problems.  I am now back in SUSE via grub and would like to thank everyone for all of their assistance.  With the assistance of this mailing list I have been able to resolve every issue that came up in 11.1 and now have a system that is the best available anywhere.

Since the Windows 7 boot sector was corrupted during the install of grub should I report this as a bug?  After installing Win7 I was able to boot successfully into Win7 until I installed grub.

Thanks again,

Dave



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> From: Rajko M. <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:27:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] dual boot issues
>
> On Sunday 25 January 2009 07:39:42 am Dave wrote:
> > I posted here a couple of weeks ago about dual booting 11.1 and Windows 7.
> > I am still unable to boot into the Win7 partition from grub.  I have
> > googled extensively with no success.  The faq on the Grub site is way
> > outdated and still discusses issues with RH7 and using drives larger than
> > 8G.  Has anyone had success dual booting openSUSE 11.1 and Windows 7.  If
> > not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one out?  I have
> > set up SuSE machines to dual boot into Windows since SuSE 6.1 and Windows
> > 95 but am stumped on this one.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Dave
>
> You got couple of answers:
> http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg03415.html
> http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg03484.html
>
> Reading previous posts:
>    ***  
> >> Voyager:/home/dave # mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 /windows/C
> >> Unexpected clusters per mft record (-1).
> >> Failed to mount 'dev/sdd1': Invalid arguement
>    ***
> You can copy console output, it saves typing and typos /dev/sdd1 and
> arguement. Just highlight text as any other, go to email client, position
> cursor where you want to copy text and press middle button (scroll wheel, or
> both left and right button at the same time), and your console text will
> appear in email.
>
> According to the few posts in the Internet, your Windows partition is damaged.
> It happened after boot loader was installed in MBR, so try to fix it using
> rescue console on Windows 7 disk. I guess that command is 'fixmbr'
> or 'fixboot', and then reinstall GRUB.
>
> If it happens the same problem again please file bug report.
>
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Re: dual boot issues

jdd@dodin.org
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Dave a écrit :

> selected Windows, grub took me to the Windows partition, and
> Windows booted without problems.

yes, I had a similar situation. Vista somehow break the boot system.
May be it can be related to the boot flag on the partition. I don't
remember exactly (it's old) but some version of windows can boot
without the flag, some other don't

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Re: dual boot issues

Rajko M.
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On Monday 26 January 2009 10:30:01 am Dave wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----
> > On Sunday 25 January 2009 07:39:42 am Dave wrote:
> > > I posted here a couple of weeks ago about dual booting 11.1 and Windows
> > > 7. I am still unable to boot into the Win7 partition from grub.  I have
> > > googled extensively with no success.  The faq on the Grub site is way
> > > outdated and still discusses issues with RH7 and using drives larger
> > > than 8G.  Has anyone had success dual booting openSUSE 11.1 and Windows
> > > 7.  If not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one
> > > out?  I have set up SuSE machines to dual boot into Windows since SuSE
> > > 6.1 and Windows 95 but am stumped on this one.
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > You got couple of answers:
> > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg03415.html
> > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-01/msg03484.html
> > ...
> > According to the few posts in the Internet, your Windows partition is
> > damaged. It happened after boot loader was installed in MBR, so try to
> > fix it using rescue console on Windows 7 disk. I guess that command is
> > 'fixmbr' or 'fixboot', and then reinstall GRUB.
> >
> > If it happens the same problem again please file bug report.
>
> Success!
>
> The boot sector was reported as corrupted by the Windows 7 repair
> utilities.  Windows 7 repaired the boot sector and rebooted.  I expected to
> go right back into windows after the reboot but instead got a pleasant
> surprise and was back at the grub boot menu.  I selected Windows, grub took
> me to the Windows partition, and Windows booted without problems.  I am now
> back in SUSE via grub and would like to thank everyone for all of their
> assistance.  With the assistance of this mailing list I have been able to
> resolve every issue that came up in 11.1 and now have a system that is the
> best available anywhere.
>
> Since the Windows 7 boot sector was corrupted during the install of grub
> should I report this as a bug?  After installing Win7 I was able to boot
> successfully into Win7 until I installed grub.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Dave

Good. Specially part of not overwriting existing MBR.

You should file bug report, even if you are not ready to play with
installation and repair process, it will bring the issue to developers
attention.

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Re: dual boot issues

M Harris-2
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On Sunday 25 January 2009 07:39, Dave wrote:
>  If not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one out?
        What happens... symptoms please?

        I have my daughters ACER laptop dual booting between wishta and opensuse
10.3/   I had an interesting problem that I've never encountered... the first
few times that wishta started it gave me a black screen and fatal startup
errors... like it could tell that something was very wrong with the MBR and
wasn't happy about it. On about the fourth bootup wishta began working "as
normally as you might expect it too... it sucks..." and the dual boot has
worked since---very strange behavior.   I am wondering if they have finally
rigged W7 so that dual boot will be a royal pain./   (sour grapes
stuff?)   ... just guessing of course.   I don't plan running W7... and
wouldn't even have wishta if it hadn't come preloaded on my daughter's
ACER... we will probably drop it... it can't really do anything and I'm not
about to buy any windows software!




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Re: dual boot issues

Rajko M.
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 01:41:36 am M Harris wrote:

> On Sunday 25 January 2009 07:39, Dave wrote:
> >  If not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one out?
>
> What happens... symptoms please?
>
> I have my daughters ACER laptop dual booting between wishta and opensuse
> 10.3/   I had an interesting problem that I've never encountered... the
> first few times that wishta started it gave me a black screen and fatal
> startup errors... like it could tell that something was very wrong with the
> MBR and wasn't happy about it. On about the fourth bootup wishta began
> working "as normally as you might expect it too... it sucks..." and the
> dual boot has worked since---very strange behavior.   I am wondering if
> they have finally rigged W7 so that dual boot will be a royal pain./  
> (sour grapes
> stuff?)   ... just guessing of course.   I don't plan running W7... and
> wouldn't even have wishta if it hadn't come preloaded on my daughter's
> ACER... we will probably drop it... it can't really do anything and I'm not
> about to buy any windows software!

The issue is actually solved.
Windows 7 repaired boot sector without wiping out GRUB in MBR.
I looked in bugzilla, there is no bug report from Dave, but there are another
interesting:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445900 

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461613


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Re: dual boot issues

upscope
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M Harris wrote:

> On Sunday 25 January 2009 07:39, Dave wrote:
>> If not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one out?
> What happens... symptoms please?
>
> I have my daughters ACER laptop dual booting between wishta and
opensuse
> 10.3/   I had an interesting problem that I've never encountered... the
> first few times that wishta started it gave me a black screen and fatal
> startup errors... like it could tell that something was very wrong with
> the MBR and wasn't happy about it. On about the fourth bootup wishta
began

> working "as normally as you might expect it too... it sucks..." and the
> dual boot has
> worked since---very strange behavior.   I am wondering if they have
> finally
> rigged W7 so that dual boot will be a royal pain./   (sour grapes
> stuff?)   ... just guessing of course.   I don't plan running W7... and
> wouldn't even have wishta if it hadn't come preloaded on my daughter's
> ACER... we will probably drop it... it can't really do anything and I'm
> not about to buy any windows software!
>
An alternative maybe to install VirtualBox and install Vista on it. That
eliminates the dual boot issues.

I have openSUSE 11.1 with Virtualbox running XP. The only reason I keep
XP is for TurboTax, it won't run under wine or codeweaver crossover pro.  




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RE: Re: dual boot issues

Adam Sailer
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From: news [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of upscope
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:11 PM
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Subject: [opensuse] Re: dual boot issues

M Harris wrote:

> On Sunday 25 January 2009 07:39, Dave wrote:
>> If not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one out?
> What happens... symptoms please?
>
> I have my daughters ACER laptop dual booting between wishta and
opensuse
> 10.3/   I had an interesting problem that I've never encountered... the
> first few times that wishta started it gave me a black screen and fatal
> startup errors... like it could tell that something was very wrong with
> the MBR and wasn't happy about it. On about the fourth bootup wishta
began

> working "as normally as you might expect it too... it sucks..." and the
> dual boot has
> worked since---very strange behavior.   I am wondering if they have
> finally
> rigged W7 so that dual boot will be a royal pain./   (sour grapes
> stuff?)   ... just guessing of course.   I don't plan running W7... and
> wouldn't even have wishta if it hadn't come preloaded on my daughter's
> ACER... we will probably drop it... it can't really do anything and I'm
> not about to buy any windows software!
>
An alternative maybe to install VirtualBox and install Vista on it. That
eliminates the dual boot issues.

I have openSUSE 11.1 with Virtualbox running XP. The only reason I keep
XP is for TurboTax, it won't run under wine or codeweaver crossover pro.  

>>>>

I'm dual-booting Win7 and OpenSuse 11.1 just fine, each on its own primary
partition.

Since Win7 obliterates the master boot record, I installed it first =)

Do it the other way round, and I think you have to boot from the Suse DVD and
restore GRUB.

-Adam


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Re: Re: dual boot issues

Rajko M.
On Thursday 29 January 2009 07:07:59 pm Adam Sailer wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of upscope
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:11 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [opensuse] Re: dual boot issues
>
> M Harris wrote:
> > On Sunday 25 January 2009 07:39, Dave wrote:
> >> If not, would anyone be interested in helping me figure this one out?
> >
> > What happens... symptoms please?
> >
> > I have my daughters ACER laptop dual booting between wishta and
>
> opensuse
>
> > 10.3/   I had an interesting problem that I've never encountered... the
> > first few times that wishta started it gave me a black screen and fatal
> > startup errors... like it could tell that something was very wrong with
> > the MBR and wasn't happy about it. On about the fourth bootup wishta
>
> began
>
> > working "as normally as you might expect it too... it sucks..." and the
> > dual boot has
> > worked since---very strange behavior.   I am wondering if they have
> > finally
> > rigged W7 so that dual boot will be a royal pain./   (sour grapes
> > stuff?)   ... just guessing of course.   I don't plan running W7... and
> > wouldn't even have wishta if it hadn't come preloaded on my daughter's
> > ACER... we will probably drop it... it can't really do anything and I'm
> > not about to buy any windows software!
>
> An alternative maybe to install VirtualBox and install Vista on it. That
> eliminates the dual boot issues.
>
> I have openSUSE 11.1 with Virtualbox running XP. The only reason I keep
> XP is for TurboTax, it won't run under wine or codeweaver crossover pro.
>
>
>
> I'm dual-booting Win7 and OpenSuse 11.1 just fine, each on its own primary
> partition.
>
> Since Win7 obliterates the master boot record, I installed it first =)
>
> Do it the other way round, and I think you have to boot from the Suse DVD
> and restore GRUB.
>
> -Adam

It would be interesting to see how it works.

I posted 2 bugs [1] that might spoil experience even if it is used common way
to install openSUSE after Win 7 installation.


[1]
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445900 
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461613


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Re: dual boot issues

Felix Miata
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On 2009/01/29 17:07 (GMT-0800) Adam Sailer composed:

> I'm dual-booting Win7 and OpenSuse 11.1 just fine, each on its own primary
> partition.

> Since Win7 obliterates the master boot record, I installed it first =)

> Do it the other way round, and I think you have to boot from the Suse DVD and
> restore GRUB.

Or don't mindlessly put Grub on the MBR in the first place. Most of the time
there's a primary partition for Linux, no need for Grub on the MBR.
http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/grub#How_does_a_PC_boot_.2F_How_can_I_set_up_a_working_GRUB.3F
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