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YaST: highlights of development sprint 30

Ancor Gonzalez Sosa
New year, new Scrum sprint. Check the highlights at
https://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=12263

Cheers.
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Re: YaST: highlights of development sprint 30

Robert Munteanu
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> New year, new Scrum sprint. Check the highlights at
> https://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=12263

Quoting from the article:

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Both restrictions are now lifted; you can now create an LVM physical
volume with encryption, or you can do the encryption layer on the
logical volume if you prefer. And you can create an encrypted plain
partition with a filesystem directly on it without LVM.

Over the years, Grub2 learned how to do that, so you don’t even need a
/boot partition anymore. For the time being, you’ll need to enter the
encryption password twice, though: once at the Grub2 prompt and once
later at the graphical console so systemd can mount those filesystems.
Our base system developers are working on a secure solution to avoid
that.
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Does that mean that in the future we'll be able to use snapper
rollback with an encrypted system? This was not working previously
because /boot was a separate ext4 partitiion.

Thanks,

Robert


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Re: YaST: highlights of development sprint 30

Terzeus S. Dominguez
> Does that mean that in the future we'll be able to use snapper
> rollback with an encrypted system? This was not working previously
> because /boot was a separate ext4 partitiion.

Not in the future. Snapper has been working with fully encrypted installs for a while now.
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Re: YaST: highlights of development sprint 30

Konstantin Voinov
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Hi.

Any news on https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998152 ?

Ancor Gonzalez Sosa писал 2017-02-04 01:01:
> New year, new Scrum sprint. Check the highlights at
> https://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=12263
>
> Cheers.
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> YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH
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Re: YaST: highlights of development sprint 30

nicholas cunliffe
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yast is awesome, but does nobody else fell like they have been transported
back to the 1990's when they open yast? on plasma the icons look 'out of
place'. Is creating a modern looking (flat) icon set part of the road map?


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Re: YaST2 icons

opensuse.lietuviu.kalba
2017.02.04 09:29, nicholas rašė:
> yast is awesome, but does nobody else fell like they have been transported
> back to the 1990's when they open yast? on plasma the icons look 'out of
> place'. Is creating a modern looking (flat) icon set part of the road map?

Selecting of icon's theme is personal taste (personally I prefer Oxygen
over Breeze even Plasma 5). But I agree, that icons should be consistent
with desktop across software. Luckily, Oxygen icons still packaged in
yast2-branding-openSUSE (and I don't see no missing icons with this
theme), but it requires to be manually activated by

 > cd /usr/share/YaST2/theme/current/
 > su -c "rm icons; ln -s '../../../icons/oxygen' icons"

I don't know, why openSUSE decided to stop automatically provide Oxygen
icons at least with KDE Plasma desktop.

Related bugs:

https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955893

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=942136

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Re: YaST2 icons

Josef Reidinger-3
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 09:54:25 +0200
"opensuse.lietuviu.kalba" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2017.02.04 09:29, nicholas rašė:
> > yast is awesome, but does nobody else fell like they have been
> > transported back to the 1990's when they open yast? on plasma the
> > icons look 'out of place'. Is creating a modern looking (flat) icon
> > set part of the road map?  
>
> Selecting of icon's theme is personal taste (personally I prefer
> Oxygen over Breeze even Plasma 5). But I agree, that icons should be
> consistent with desktop across software. Luckily, Oxygen icons still
> packaged in yast2-branding-openSUSE (and I don't see no missing icons
> with this theme), but it requires to be manually activated by
>
>  > cd /usr/share/YaST2/theme/current/
>  > su -c "rm icons; ln -s '../../../icons/oxygen' icons"  
>
> I don't know, why openSUSE decided to stop automatically provide
> Oxygen icons at least with KDE Plasma desktop.
>
> Related bugs:
>
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955893
>
> https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=942136
>
> --
>
> Regards
>

Well, noone maintaining it. In our team we do not have designer, so SLE
designer team maintains SLE icons and opensuse branding team maintain
one one icons set. So if someone step in and maintain it, then
we will welcome it and can readd it.

Josef
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Re: YaST: highlights of development sprint 30

Josef Reidinger-3
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Hi, currently we there are more prioritized work, so it is still on my
radar, but currently do not have time to try to reproduce it and find
what is root of issue as my initial tests which try to reproduce it
passed without problems.

Josef

On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 09:54:29 +0900
Konstantin Voinov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Any news on https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998152 ?
>
> Ancor Gonzalez Sosa писал 2017-02-04 01:01:
> > New year, new Scrum sprint. Check the highlights at
> > https://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=12263
> >
> > Cheers.
> > --
> > Ancor González Sosa
> > YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH  

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Re: YaST2 icons

opensuse.lietuviu.kalba
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2017.02.06 10:51, Josef Reidinger rašė:
> Well, noone maintaining it. In our team we do not have designer, so SLE
> designer team maintains SLE icons and opensuse branding team maintain
> one one icons set. So if someone step in and maintain it, then
> we will welcome it and can readd it.
>
> Josef

Hi,

I think icons are once done job. It seems, that no new icons (as names,
not as images) required. Someone created Oxygen icon set and icons still
encompass all used ones even today. (I agree that Crystal icons must be
removed from supported list, as there are a lot of missing icons for
theme). Some could be for Breeze or other theme: SUSE could just once
hire/ask someone from KDE design group to create icon theme (they
created thousands new icons recently!) – that new theme could live
without additional effort for years.

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Re: YaST2 icons

Luca Beltrame
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Il giorno Mon, 6 Feb 2017 09:51:44 +0100
Josef Reidinger <[hidden email]> ha scritto:

> maintain one one icons set. So if someone step in and maintain it,
> then we will welcome it and can readd it.

You could ask the KDE Visual Design Group[1] for icons: they're pretty
collaborative and they already did icons for downstreams.

[1] IRC on #kde-vg, I'll see if there's a mail address one can write to.

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Re: YaST2 icons

Martin Schlander
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mandag den 6. februar 2017 09.51.44 CET skrev Josef Reidinger:

> On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 09:54:25 +0200
> "opensuse.lietuviu.kalba" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Oxygen icons still
> > packaged in yast2-branding-openSUSE (and I don't see no missing icons
> > with this theme), but it requires to be manually activated by
> >
> > I don't know, why openSUSE decided to stop automatically provide
> > Oxygen icons at least with KDE Plasma desktop.
> >
> > Related bugs:
> >
> > https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955893
> >
> > https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=942136
> >
>
> Well, noone maintaining it. In our team we do not have designer, so SLE
> designer team maintains SLE icons and opensuse branding team maintain
> one one icons set. So if someone step in and maintain it, then
> we will welcome it and can readd it.

I maintained the YaST Oxygen icons. And the Oxygen icon theme wasn't dropped
for lack of maintenance. At least not of the icons themselves. At some point
YaST just stopped using the Oxygen icons under KDE. I don't even remember
anymore if they were just considered too ugly (I remember Jos Poortvliet
complained about them publicly while he was still openSUSE community manager)
or there was some technical reason YaST stopped using different themes
depending on the desktop used.

Iirc there was even a fallback in place where Tango icons would be used if
icons were missing in another theme, so the other theme would have to be
unmaintained for a very long time, for enough new YaST modules to appear for
it to be a serious problem - and probably 90% of openSUSE users only have the
default set of YaST modules installed anyway. And as Lietuviu Kalba pointed
out the icons are even still installed in the distribution to this day, just
not used.

Admittedly the icons aren't super pretty. Since I'm no real artist, I just did
some half-assed remix of upstream KDE icon SVGs in Inkscape. But at least in
all modesty I  thought they were better suited for KDE environments than the
Tango icons.

Not sure there's much point in bringing back Oxygen icons now. But a new
Breeze theme (matching "KDE5") could probably be created by volunteers in the
same way without too much effort, using and remixing existing upstream KDE
Breeze icons. If only people could count on YaST actually using the work, or
at least just allowing users to manually switch theme in a clean, supported
way, that isn't broken by updates, such as manually replacing files installed
by an rpm.
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