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Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Moby-2
2 machines running tumbleweeb with the stable kernel repos enabled
(http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/).

I normally do zypper ref and then zypper dup on both machines almost daily.

This last cycle, the 32 bit machine worked just fine, and is now running
kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.

The 64 bit machine did not pick up this version of the kernel during
zypper dup.  I see the proper kernel rpm exists for 64 bit machines in
the repo.  Trying to install the kernel via:

zypper in
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm

results in:

Problem: This request will break your system!
  libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 requires
/sbin/ldconfig, but this requirement cannot be provided
uninstallable providers: glibc-2.19-16.15.1.i586[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
                   glibc-2.19-16.9.1.i586[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
                   glibc-2.19-16.15.1.i686[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
                   glibc-2.19-16.9.1.i686[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
                   glibc-2.19-16.15.1.x86_64[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
                   glibc-2.19-16.9.1.x86_64[openSUSE_13.2_Update]

Why is the installation of the kernel rpm complaining about some totally
different RPM's dependencies (to me it appears that the messages are
complaining about libwx_gtk2u_html-suse having issues with the glibc rpm
... nothing to do with the kernel rpm).

I am pretty sure this is caused by some type of repo mixup, but I cannot
seem to figure out what.  Any help would be much appreciated.


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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Richard Brown
First question: Why are doing this?

The openSUSE Tumbleweed distribution has the latest tested kernel in
it. I dont understand the use case for adding Kernel:stable to it

Second question: How are your repos setup? You clearly haven't got
openSUSE tumbleweed setup correctly - because that depedenency error
is referencing a repo named "openSUSE_13.2_Update"

Tumbleweed should not have any openSUSE_13.2* Repositories.

Hope this helps

On 13 September 2015 at 19:30, Moby <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2 machines running tumbleweeb with the stable kernel repos enabled
> (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/).
>
> I normally do zypper ref and then zypper dup on both machines almost daily.
>
> This last cycle, the 32 bit machine worked just fine, and is now running
> kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.
>
> The 64 bit machine did not pick up this version of the kernel during
> zypper dup.  I see the proper kernel rpm exists for 64 bit machines in
> the repo.  Trying to install the kernel via:
>
> zypper in
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
>
> results in:
>
> Problem: This request will break your system!
>   libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 requires
> /sbin/ldconfig, but this requirement cannot be provided
> uninstallable providers: glibc-2.19-16.15.1.i586[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.i586[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>                    glibc-2.19-16.15.1.i686[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.i686[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>                    glibc-2.19-16.15.1.x86_64[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.x86_64[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>
> Why is the installation of the kernel rpm complaining about some totally
> different RPM's dependencies (to me it appears that the messages are
> complaining about libwx_gtk2u_html-suse having issues with the glibc rpm
> ... nothing to do with the kernel rpm).
>
> I am pretty sure this is caused by some type of repo mixup, but I cannot
> seem to figure out what.  Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>
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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Moby-2


On 09/13/2015 01:38 PM, Richard Brown wrote:

> First question: Why are doing this?
>
> The openSUSE Tumbleweed distribution has the latest tested kernel in
> it. I dont understand the use case for adding Kernel:stable to it
>
> Second question: How are your repos setup? You clearly haven't got
> openSUSE tumbleweed setup correctly - because that depedenency error
> is referencing a repo named "openSUSE_13.2_Update"
>
> Tumbleweed should not have any openSUSE_13.2* Repositories.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> On 13 September 2015 at 19:30, Moby <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> 2 machines running tumbleweeb with the stable kernel repos enabled
>> (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/).
>>
>> I normally do zypper ref and then zypper dup on both machines almost daily.
>>
>> This last cycle, the 32 bit machine worked just fine, and is now running
>> kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.
>>
>> The 64 bit machine did not pick up this version of the kernel during
>> zypper dup.  I see the proper kernel rpm exists for 64 bit machines in
>> the repo.  Trying to install the kernel via:
>>
>> zypper in
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
>>
>> results in:
>>
>> Problem: This request will break your system!
>>   libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 requires
>> /sbin/ldconfig, but this requirement cannot be provided
>> uninstallable providers: glibc-2.19-16.15.1.i586[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.i586[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>                    glibc-2.19-16.15.1.i686[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.i686[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>                    glibc-2.19-16.15.1.x86_64[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.x86_64[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>
>> Why is the installation of the kernel rpm complaining about some totally
>> different RPM's dependencies (to me it appears that the messages are
>> complaining about libwx_gtk2u_html-suse having issues with the glibc rpm
>> ... nothing to do with the kernel rpm).
>>
>> I am pretty sure this is caused by some type of repo mixup, but I cannot
>> seem to figure out what.  Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>>
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>

Thanks Richard.

I use the kernel from stable kernel repo due to certain btrfs issues.
It was Anton on here (I believe) who had suggested that for me to
overcome certain problems I was seeing with btrfs.  This higher kernel
version from the stable kernel repo fixed my btrfs issues.

I had left the oss 13.2 repos in the repo list thinking that tumbleweed
repo versions of RPMs would be higher and zypper woud therefore not use
anything from the oss 13.2 repos.  I will remove those and retry.


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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Moby-2


On 09/13/2015 01:58 PM, Moby wrote:

>
>
> On 09/13/2015 01:38 PM, Richard Brown wrote:
>> First question: Why are doing this?
>>
>> The openSUSE Tumbleweed distribution has the latest tested kernel in
>> it. I dont understand the use case for adding Kernel:stable to it
>>
>> Second question: How are your repos setup? You clearly haven't got
>> openSUSE tumbleweed setup correctly - because that depedenency error
>> is referencing a repo named "openSUSE_13.2_Update"
>>
>> Tumbleweed should not have any openSUSE_13.2* Repositories.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> On 13 September 2015 at 19:30, Moby <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> 2 machines running tumbleweeb with the stable kernel repos enabled
>>> (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/).
>>>
>>> I normally do zypper ref and then zypper dup on both machines almost daily.
>>>
>>> This last cycle, the 32 bit machine worked just fine, and is now running
>>> kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.
>>>
>>> The 64 bit machine did not pick up this version of the kernel during
>>> zypper dup.  I see the proper kernel rpm exists for 64 bit machines in
>>> the repo.  Trying to install the kernel via:
>>>
>>> zypper in
>>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
>>>
>>> results in:
>>>
>>> Problem: This request will break your system!
>>>   libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 requires
>>> /sbin/ldconfig, but this requirement cannot be provided
>>> uninstallable providers: glibc-2.19-16.15.1.i586[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.i586[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>>                    glibc-2.19-16.15.1.i686[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.i686[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>>                    glibc-2.19-16.15.1.x86_64[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>>                    glibc-2.19-16.9.1.x86_64[openSUSE_13.2_Update]
>>>
>>> Why is the installation of the kernel rpm complaining about some totally
>>> different RPM's dependencies (to me it appears that the messages are
>>> complaining about libwx_gtk2u_html-suse having issues with the glibc rpm
>>> ... nothing to do with the kernel rpm).
>>>
>>> I am pretty sure this is caused by some type of repo mixup, but I cannot
>>> seem to figure out what.  Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
> Thanks Richard.
>
> I use the kernel from stable kernel repo due to certain btrfs issues.
> It was Anton on here (I believe) who had suggested that for me to
> overcome certain problems I was seeing with btrfs.  This higher kernel
> version from the stable kernel repo fixed my btrfs issues.
>
> I had left the oss 13.2 repos in the repo list thinking that tumbleweed
> repo versions of RPMs would be higher and zypper woud therefore not use
> anything from the oss 13.2 repos.  I will remove those and retry.
>
>

I removed all oss 13.2 repos, keeping just the kernel stable and
tumbleweed repos.  The latest stable kernel rpm will still not install,
though the makeup of the error message has now changed slightly. Now I get:

zypper in
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

Problem: This request will break your system!
  libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 requires
/sbin/ldconfig, but this requirement cannot be provided

 Solution 1: ignore the warning of a broken system (requires:glibc)
 Solution 2: do not install kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686
 Solution 3: do not install kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686
 Solution 4: break libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 by
ignoring some of its dependencies



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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Patrick Shanahan-2
* Moby <[hidden email]> [09-13-15 16:00]:
 [...]  many lines removed.. not necessary to continue.. OP's job

> I removed all oss 13.2 repos, keeping just the kernel stable and
> tumbleweed repos.  The latest stable kernel rpm will still not install,
> though the makeup of the error message has now changed slightly. Now I get:
>
> zypper in
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
> Loading repository data...
> Reading installed packages...
> Resolving package dependencies...
>
> Problem: This request will break your system!
>   libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 requires
> /sbin/ldconfig, but this requirement cannot be provided
>
>  Solution 1: ignore the warning of a broken system (requires:glibc)
>  Solution 2: do not install kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686
>  Solution 3: do not install kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686
>  Solution 4: break libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 by
> ignoring some of its dependencies

So now that Tw kernel has had updated btrfs, drop kernel:stable and use
the kernel meant for Tw and do away with your problems.  I had full disk
problem with btrfs and do not now.  Many improvements in newer kernels are
backported to previous kernels.  Would you rather have a running system or
continue seeking assistance which doesn't appear forthcoming and worrying
why the kernel install is failing?

please consider trimming your posts!
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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Michal Marek
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Dne 13.9.2015 v 19:30 Moby napsal(a):

> 2 machines running tumbleweeb with the stable kernel repos enabled
> (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/).
>
> I normally do zypper ref and then zypper dup on both machines almost daily.
>
> This last cycle, the 32 bit machine worked just fine, and is now running
> kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.
>
> The 64 bit machine did not pick up this version of the kernel during
> zypper dup.  I see the proper kernel rpm exists for 64 bit machines in
> the repo.  Trying to install the kernel via:
>
> zypper in
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
                                                                    ^^^^
You are trying to install the 32bit kernel in a system with 64bit userspace.


> results in:
>
> Problem: This request will break your system!

It indeed will.

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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Moby-2
>>
>> zypper in
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
>                                                                     ^^^^
> You are trying to install the 32bit kernel in a system with 64bit userspace.
>
>
>> results in:
>>
>> Problem: This request will break your system!
>
> It indeed will.
>
> Michal
>
>
Thanks Michal.  The kernel is 64 bit - why do you think it is 32 bit?
There is a 32 bit kernel at the same repo in the i586 directory.  My
problem appears to be one of rpm dependencies - I am running a query for
all RPMs on the system with no repo.  Lets see what happens after that
cleanup.

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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Moby-2


On 09/13/2015 04:34 PM, Moby wrote:

>>>
>>> zypper in
>>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
>>                                                                     ^^^^
>> You are trying to install the 32bit kernel in a system with 64bit userspace.
>>
>>
>>> results in:
>>>
>>> Problem: This request will break your system!
>>
>> It indeed will.
>>
>> Michal
>>
>>
> Thanks Michal.  The kernel is 64 bit - why do you think it is 32 bit?
> There is a 32 bit kernel at the same repo in the i586 directory.  My
> problem appears to be one of rpm dependencies - I am running a query for
> all RPMs on the system with no repo.  Lets see what happens after that
> cleanup.
>
Apologies Michal, you are right - that was the 32 bit kernel.  I feel
like a moron, the 64 bit version of the kernel is not out there.  Well,
at least I have a fairly clean system now, with a lot of un-needed RPMs
removed!  Thanks again Michal.

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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Patrick Shanahan-2
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* Moby <[hidden email]> [09-13-15 17:36]:

> >>
> >> zypper in
> >> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm
> >                                                                     ^^^^
> > You are trying to install the 32bit kernel in a system with 64bit userspace.
> >
> >
> >> results in:
> >>
> >> Problem: This request will break your system!
> >
> > It indeed will.
> >
> > Michal
> >
> >
> Thanks Michal.  The kernel is 64 bit - why do you think it is 32 bit?
> There is a 32 bit kernel at the same repo in the i586 directory.  

What do you think "i686" is?

> My problem appears to be one of rpm dependencies - I am running a query
> for all RPMs on the system with no repo.  Lets see what happens after
> that cleanup.

While it may help otherwise in your system, it is not related to your
kernel install problem.

You have asked for help, why do you not take advise you have been
afforded?
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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Moby-2
>>>
>> Thanks Michal.  The kernel is 64 bit - why do you think it is 32 bit?
>> There is a 32 bit kernel at the same repo in the i586 directory.  
>
> What do you think "i686" is?
>
>> My problem appears to be one of rpm dependencies - I am running a query
>> for all RPMs on the system with no repo.  Lets see what happens after
>> that cleanup.
>
> While it may help otherwise in your system, it is not related to your
> kernel install problem.
>
> You have asked for help, why do you not take advise you have been
> afforded?
>

Thanks Patrick, I saw my mistake with the i686 and already sent my
apologies to the list; should have been the email right after the one
you replied to.

Yes, I did think of not using the kernel that I thought I was having
problems installing (as it turns out, and I now know, that kernel does
not exist!).  I have a need to try out the kernels from stable on this
one machine - in addition to the btrfs issues, I need the newer kernels
from stable to get the wifi card and audio to work properly.  The
machine has been doing much better (consistent audio experience and no
drops with the wifi) with the kernels from the stable repo.  I
understand at some point the fixes will get ported to the versions of
the kernel in Tumbleweed, I was seeking assistance on how to get the
kernel from stable running on this machine.

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Re: Tumbleweed with stable kernel issue on 64 bit only

Stefan Seyfried
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Am 13.09.2015 um 21:58 schrieb Moby:

> zypper in
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686.rpm

This is a 32bit kernel

> Problem: This request will break your system!
>   libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 requires

you have a 64bit system

Yes, the error message could be more obvious :-)

> /sbin/ldconfig, but this requirement cannot be provided
>
>  Solution 1: ignore the warning of a broken system (requires:glibc)
>  Solution 2: do not install kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686
>  Solution 3: do not install kernel-desktop-4.2.0-5.1.ge7543dd.i686
>  Solution 4: break libwx_gtk2u_html-suse-3_0-0-3.0.1-2.1.11.x86_64 by
> ignoring some of its dependencies

I strongly urge you to go for 2 or 3 :-)
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