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Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2017/50

Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
Dear Tumbleweed users and hackers,

This is the 2nd last week of the year, many people started leaving for
their holiday, but Tumbleweed is rolling and rolling: it does not take
a break (but might lower the pace). So last week ‘only’ had 4
snapshots. But then, I wrote last weeks review a day late or, in other
words, the week for this review short by one day. These snapshots have
been released to the public: 1215, 1216, 1218 and 1220.

For your celebration parties, the snapshots contained these updates:

  * dbus-1.12
  * Linux kernel 4.14.6
  * Qt4 ported to openSSL1.1
  * LLVM 5 (for now, LLVM4 is still in the repo, but that’s a question
of time)
  * KDE Applications 17.12.0: an issue with kmail sending out mail over
smtps was identified late. A fix has been published in the update
channel.
  * cmake 3.10.1

Looking at stagings, one can observe quite some more things shaping up
(some are a bit longer standing, as they are more complex):

  * RPM 4.14
  * openJDK 10 will be used to build the distro packages (starting with
1222)
  * Qt 5.10 (expected in snapshot 1223+)
  * Linux kernel 4.16.7 (likely also in 1223+)
  * LibreOffice 6.0
  * Poppler 0.62.0 (as soon as LibreOffice builds with it)
  * YaST’s libstorage-ng implementation

As you know, all of those things are always delivered to you as
‘packages’. You might not be able to unwrap them like others you might
receive in this period, but we certainly hope they bring you as much
joy as other packages you receive. I  wish you a happy holiday – and we
will bring more gifts your way.

Best regards,
Dominique

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Re: Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2017/51

Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
On Fri, 2017-12-22 at 16:41 +0100, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
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> Dear Tumbleweed users and hackers,

Apologies - I was again time traveling: this was of course for week  
2017/51

Cheers,
Dominique

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Re: Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2017/50

Neal Gompa
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Looking at stagings, one can observe quite some more things shaping up
> (some are a bit longer standing, as they are more complex):
>
>   * RPM 4.14

I'm eagerly anticipating this!

>   * openJDK 10 will be used to build the distro packages (starting with
> 1222)

Umm, is OpenJDK 10 even branched? I thought we'd be transitioning to
OpenJDK 9...

>   * Qt 5.10 (expected in snapshot 1223+)
>   * Linux kernel 4.16.7 (likely also in 1223+)
>   * LibreOffice 6.0

So we're moving to the beta LO 6? Or we're waiting for the final first?

>   * Poppler 0.62.0 (as soon as LibreOffice builds with it)
>   * YaST’s libstorage-ng implementation
>
> As you know, all of those things are always delivered to you as
> ‘packages’. You might not be able to unwrap them like others you might
> receive in this period, but we certainly hope they bring you as much
> joy as other packages you receive. I  wish you a happy holiday – and we
> will bring more gifts your way.

Looks good in general!


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Re: Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2017/50

Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
On Fri, 2017-12-22 at 10:03 -0600, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Looking at stagings, one can observe quite some more things shaping up
> > (some are a bit longer standing, as they are more complex):
> >
> >   * RPM 4.14
>
> I'm eagerly anticipating this!

Me too - but you still won't be allowed to use the rich deps :)

> >   * openJDK 10 will be used to build the distro packages (starting with
> > 1222)
>
> Umm, is OpenJDK 10 even branched? I thought we'd be transitioning to
> OpenJDK 9...

Upstream even branched JDK 11 already. The openSUSE transition to JDK 9
was done completely a while back, mentioned in the week 37/38 review,
see

http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2017/09/review-of-the-weeks-20173
7-38/

(yes, evo breaks the link as it wraps the lines - copy paste it)

> >   * Qt 5.10 (expected in snapshot 1223+)
> >   * Linux kernel 4.16.7 (likely also in 1223+)
> >   * LibreOffice 6.0
>
> So we're moving to the beta LO 6? Or we're waiting for the final first?

That's up to the package maintainer to decide; From the discussions
held so far, he's waiting at least for the RC releases. It's currently
staged and passing openQA already (and of course available for early
testers from the devel project)

Cheers,
Dominique

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Re: Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2017/50

Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2017-12-22 at 10:03 -0600, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looking at stagings, one can observe quite some more things shaping up
>> > (some are a bit longer standing, as they are more complex):
>> >
>> >   * RPM 4.14
>>
>> I'm eagerly anticipating this!
>
> Me too - but you still won't be allowed to use the rich deps :)
>

Aww, come on! What's holding up the new rpm-md based product builder?

>> >   * openJDK 10 will be used to build the distro packages (starting with
>> > 1222)
>>
>> Umm, is OpenJDK 10 even branched? I thought we'd be transitioning to
>> OpenJDK 9...
>
> Upstream even branched JDK 11 already. The openSUSE transition to JDK 9
> was done completely a while back, mentioned in the week 37/38 review,
> see
>
> http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2017/09/review-of-the-weeks-20173
> 7-38/
>
> (yes, evo breaks the link as it wraps the lines - copy paste it)
>

Wow, this is very cool!

>> >   * Qt 5.10 (expected in snapshot 1223+)
>> >   * Linux kernel 4.16.7 (likely also in 1223+)
>> >   * LibreOffice 6.0
>>
>> So we're moving to the beta LO 6? Or we're waiting for the final first?
>
> That's up to the package maintainer to decide; From the discussions
> held so far, he's waiting at least for the RC releases. It's currently
> staged and passing openQA already (and of course available for early
> testers from the devel project)
>

Neat!


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Re: Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2017/51

James Knott
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On 12/22/2017 10:45 AM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
> Apologies - I was again time traveling

Into the future or past?  ;-)
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Re: Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2017/50

Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar
In reply to this post by Neal Gompa
On Fri, 2017-12-22 at 10:23 -0600, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Me too - but you still won't be allowed to use the rich deps :)
> >
>
> Aww, come on! What's holding up the new rpm-md based product builder?

I'm awaiting features in OBS that allow me to new screw up the entire
staging process.

Cheers,
Dominique

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John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
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On 12/22/2017 05:03 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>   * openJDK 10 will be used to build the distro packages (starting with
>> 1222)
>
> Umm, is OpenJDK 10 even branched? I thought we'd be transitioning to
> OpenJDK 9...

OpenJDK upstream has changed their release policy. They want to release smaller
releases more often. JDK10 is planned to be released on March, 20 2018 [1].

The development cycle for JDK11 has already started and I have prepared my
first patch for this release which I am going to push tomorrow or so. I
have recently contributed so many fixes to OpenJDK upstream that I have
been promoted as a committer to the JDK project :).

So, in case there are any issues within openSUSE that anyone thinks that
should be upstreamed, please let me know. For JDK10, I have contributed
almost 20 patches to fix various issues on Linux, mostly in the Zero
port.

Adrian

> [1] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk/10/
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