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Task Manager (Kicker) bar and grouping

Marc Chamberlin
Hello -  On both openSuSE42.2 and openSuSE42.3 x64 systems I am running
the KDE desktop and encounter an annoying problem with task manager bar
(some call it the kicker bar I think). I have the manager bar configured
to group windows belonging to the same application to be shown as a
single icon. For example, if I am running Firefox and have multiple
windows/Firefox processes running, these are all grouped under a single
icon in the task bar for Firefox. Clicking on that icon brings up a
pop-up window showing all the individual Firefox windows allowing me to
select one to open up. The problem is that the popup is not being
position on the screen correctly and some of the individual window icons
in the list remain hidden/inaccessible behind the task manager bar. I
cannot find a setting in any of the configuration menus that allow me to
correct and fix this annoyance and the only workaround is to ungroup the
icons so that they are all shown individually on the task manager bar.
But with lots of open windows that becomes a PITA also.

Things I have tried include resizing the task manager bar and the icons
but no joy. Is there any way to fix this so that it works as one would
expect, i.e. position the popup window so that all the icons for all the
windows for a particular application are shown?  Thanks in advance for
any kind words of advice....

    Marc...

P.S. I might have asked this before, but cannot find the thread if so,
or what the answer was...

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Re: Task Manager (Kicker) bar and grouping

Stakanov Schufter
In data venerdì 5 gennaio 2018 08:24:00 CET, Marc Chamberlin ha scritto:
> Hello -  On both openSuSE42.2 and openSuSE42.3 x64 systems I am running
-snip-

> Things I have tried include resizing the task manager bar and the icons
> but no joy. Is there any way to fix this so that it works as one would
> expect, i.e. position the popup window so that all the icons for all the
> windows for a particular application are shown?  Thanks in advance for
> any kind words of advice....
>
>     Marc...
>
> P.S. I might have asked this before, but cannot find the thread if so,
> or what the answer was...

Hi Mark.
I do not know if it is related. I had problems with the logout popup, badly
sized and positioned. It was due to having "scaled" the screen size to more
then 100 % - a new feature that actually does not work well yet if you have
dual screen monitor setting.
You might check it in monitor and screen settings - screen tag - advanced
button - all in the  lower part you find a button scale the screen.

Chances are good that it will not help you...but I thought it was worth a try.

Have a nice day.

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Marc Chamberlin
Thanks Stakanov for your thoughts...  As far as I can tell I do not have
any screen scaling going on. Starting with the KDE Application Menu,  I
looked at the Settings > Configure Desktop > Hardware > Display and
Monitor > Displays > Scale Display dialog and the scale slider is set at
0.  I am not sure if this is the same setting that you wanted me to take
a look at as I do not know where else to look for the "monitor and
screen settings" that you referred to.

     Marc..

 On 01/05/2018 12:27 AM, stakanov wrote:

> In data venerdì 5 gennaio 2018 08:24:00 CET, Marc Chamberlin ha scritto:
>> Hello -  On both openSuSE42.2 and openSuSE42.3 x64 systems I am running
> -snip-
>> Things I have tried include resizing the task manager bar and the icons
>> but no joy. Is there any way to fix this so that it works as one would
>> expect, i.e. position the popup window so that all the icons for all the
>> windows for a particular application are shown?  Thanks in advance for
>> any kind words of advice....
>>
>>     Marc...
>>
>> P.S. I might have asked this before, but cannot find the thread if so,
>> or what the answer was...
> Hi Mark.
> I do not know if it is related. I had problems with the logout popup, badly
> sized and positioned. It was due to having "scaled" the screen size to more
> then 100 % - a new feature that actually does not work well yet if you have
> dual screen monitor setting.
> You might check it in monitor and screen settings - screen tag - advanced
> button - all in the  lower part you find a button scale the screen.
>
> Chances are good that it will not help you...but I thought it was worth a try.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
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Stakanov Schufter
In data venerdì 5 gennaio 2018 22:44:05 CET, Marc Chamberlin ha scritto:
> Thanks Stakanov for your thoughts...  As far as I can tell I do not have
> any screen scaling going on. Starting with the KDE Application Menu,  I
> looked at the Settings > Configure Desktop > Hardware > Display and
> Monitor > Displays > Scale Display dialog and the scale slider is set at
> 0.  I am not sure if this is the same setting that you wanted me to take
> a look at as I do not know where else to look for the "monitor and
> screen settings" that you referred to.
>
>      Marc..
Yes this is the setting.
I do not know if you have a dual monitor setup. In case, try to set no primary
monitor or if it is the case, define one.

If you provide me with the graphics card type (nvidia / amd or Intel) and the
version of opensuse and the exact graphics settings (dpi and the plasma theme
if it is not breeze) I will try to reproduce it here. If I can reproduce it,
you might file a bug report and I will confirm in that case. Just let me know.

C.U.

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Marc Chamberlin
Thanks again Stakanov for taking the time to help me! ;-)  Since I am on
my laptop at the moment, and this problem is occurring on it, I will use
it as a reference to answer your questions. So to your first question,
no it is not set up for dual monitors. Just a simple laptop screen. It
is using the nVidia GeForce GTX 1070 card and the display resolution is
set to 1920 x 1080. The Look and Feel and the Desktop themes are set to
Breeze Dark, the Cursor theme is set to simply Breeze. I am running
openSUSE Leap version 42.2

I did a bit more investigating on my own, and don't laugh to loudly, I
know I am a bad user and abuse things a lot, but this is just how I
organize myself, projects I am working on, and multitask. I discovered
that this problem occurs when, for example, I open 15 or more Firefox
windows! Fewer windows then the popup list does display everything
correctly. So call me a power user abuser, LOL, but it is still annoying
that this feature has this limitation and probably should be
addressed/fixed or at least a warning be given...

   HTHs   Marc...


On 01/05/2018 02:29 PM, stakanov wrote:

> In data venerdì 5 gennaio 2018 22:44:05 CET, Marc Chamberlin ha scritto:
>> Thanks Stakanov for your thoughts...  As far as I can tell I do not have
>> any screen scaling going on. Starting with the KDE Application Menu,  I
>> looked at the Settings > Configure Desktop > Hardware > Display and
>> Monitor > Displays > Scale Display dialog and the scale slider is set at
>> 0.  I am not sure if this is the same setting that you wanted me to take
>> a look at as I do not know where else to look for the "monitor and
>> screen settings" that you referred to.
>>
>>      Marc..
> Yes this is the setting.
> I do not know if you have a dual monitor setup. In case, try to set no primary
> monitor or if it is the case, define one.
>
> If you provide me with the graphics card type (nvidia / amd or Intel) and the
> version of opensuse and the exact graphics settings (dpi and the plasma theme
> if it is not breeze) I will try to reproduce it here. If I can reproduce it,
> you might file a bug report and I will confirm in that case. Just let me know.
>
> C.U.
>
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