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TW keyboard map settings KO : I have QWERTY - I need AZERTY

James PEARSON
Hello

I built a new AMD4 setup 2 weekends ago and I am running a dual boot setup with Leap 42.2 and TW.
The Leap 42.2 installation is fine.
However I have reinstalled TW at least 4 separate times, with and without updates during the installation, using the openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20170510-Media.iso burnt to a usb key as a base.
Each time when I reboot for the first time my keyboard map settings are set to QWERTY  :(   I need AZERTY not QWERTY.

I started off asking for Lang=US and Keymap=FR. The installation went fine but when I booted I had QWERTY keyboard settings.  
I have reinstalled at least 3 times since using  only Lang=FR and Keymap=FR.
The installation goes fine but but when I reboot I always have QWERTY keyboard settings.  
I can connect to root if I type my root password using QWERTY keyboard map settings.  When I set the root password I was using AZERTY keyboard map settings.

I have another  dual Leap 42.2 / TW setup installed on an old intel system and I do not have this problem but the dual boot setup is at least 6 mois old (if not more).

Some info on my AMD4 setup follows:
# os-release
The keyboard map settings on Leap 42.2 are OK
hero:~ # cat /etc/os-release
NAME="openSUSE Leap"
VERSION="42.2"

The keyboard map settins on TW are not.
linux-7zkb:~ #                                                                                                                                                                                  
# VERSION="20170521"

# localectl
# 42.2 OK
hero:~ # localectl
   System Locale: LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8
       VC Keymap: fr
      X11 Layout: fr
       X11 Model: pc105
     X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
   
# TW
linux-7zkb:~ # localectl
   System Locale: LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8
       VC Keymap: fr
      X11 Layout: n/a


# /etc/sysconfig/language
# 42.2 OK
hero:~ #  cat /etc/sysconfig/language | grep -v ^#

INPUT_METHOD=""
RC_LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"

RC_LC_ALL=""

RC_LC_MESSAGES=""

RC_LC_CTYPE=""

RC_LC_COLLATE=""

RC_LC_TIME=""

RC_LC_NUMERIC=""

RC_LC_MONETARY=""

RC_LC_PAPER=""

ROOT_USES_LANG="ctype"

AUTO_DETECT_UTF8="no"

INSTALLED_LANGUAGES="fr_FR"

# TW
linux-7zkb:~ # cat /etc/sysconfig/language | grep -v ^#

INPUT_METHOD=""
RC_LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"

RC_LC_ALL=""

RC_LC_MESSAGES=""

RC_LC_CTYPE=""

RC_LC_COLLATE=""

RC_LC_TIME=""

RC_LC_NUMERIC=""

RC_LC_MONETARY=""

RC_LC_PAPER=""

ROOT_USES_LANG="ctype"                                                                    
                                                                                           
AUTO_DETECT_UTF8="no"                                                                        
                                                                                                 
INSTALLED_LANGUAGES="fr_FR"


I deleted my home folder in TW, created it again and rebooted. This solved nothing.


All help and comments welcome
TIA

Regards
James
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Re: TW keyboard map settings KO : I have QWERTY - I need AZERTY

Hendrik Woltersdorf-2
Am 22.05.2017 um 20:37 schrieb James PEARSON:

> Hello
>
> I built a new AMD4 setup 2 weekends ago and I am running a dual boot setup with Leap 42.2 and TW.
> The Leap 42.2 installation is fine.
> However I have reinstalled TW at least 4 separate times, with and without updates during the installation, using the openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20170510-Media.iso burnt to a usb key as a base.
> Each time when I reboot for the first time my keyboard map settings are set to QWERTY  :(   I need AZERTY not QWERTY.
>
> I started off asking for Lang=US and Keymap=FR. The installation went fine but when I booted I had QWERTY keyboard settings.  
> I have reinstalled at least 3 times since using  only Lang=FR and Keymap=FR.
> The installation goes fine but but when I reboot I always have QWERTY keyboard settings.  
> I can connect to root if I type my root password using QWERTY keyboard map settings.  When I set the root password I was using AZERTY keyboard map settings.
>
> I have another  dual Leap 42.2 / TW setup installed on an old intel system and I do not have this problem but the dual boot setup is at least 6 mois old (if not more).
>
> Some info on my AMD4 setup follows:
> # os-release
> The keyboard map settings on Leap 42.2 are OK
> hero:~ # cat /etc/os-release
> NAME="openSUSE Leap"
> VERSION="42.2"
>
> The keyboard map settins on TW are not.
> linux-7zkb:~ #                                                                                                                                                                                  
> # VERSION="20170521"
>
> # localectl
> # 42.2 OK
> hero:~ # localectl
>    System Locale: LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8
>        VC Keymap: fr
>       X11 Layout: fr
>        X11 Model: pc105
>      X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
>    
> # TW
> linux-7zkb:~ # localectl
>    System Locale: LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8
>        VC Keymap: fr
>       X11 Layout: n/a
>
>
> # /etc/sysconfig/language
> # 42.2 OK
> hero:~ #  cat /etc/sysconfig/language | grep -v ^#
>
> INPUT_METHOD=""
> RC_LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"
>
> RC_LC_ALL=""
>
> RC_LC_MESSAGES=""
>
> RC_LC_CTYPE=""
>
> RC_LC_COLLATE=""
>
> RC_LC_TIME=""
>
> RC_LC_NUMERIC=""
>
> RC_LC_MONETARY=""
>
> RC_LC_PAPER=""
>
> ROOT_USES_LANG="ctype"
>
> AUTO_DETECT_UTF8="no"
>
> INSTALLED_LANGUAGES="fr_FR"
>
> # TW
> linux-7zkb:~ # cat /etc/sysconfig/language | grep -v ^#
>
> INPUT_METHOD=""
> RC_LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"
>
> RC_LC_ALL=""
>
> RC_LC_MESSAGES=""
>
> RC_LC_CTYPE=""
>
> RC_LC_COLLATE=""
>
> RC_LC_TIME=""
>
> RC_LC_NUMERIC=""
>
> RC_LC_MONETARY=""
>
> RC_LC_PAPER=""
>
> ROOT_USES_LANG="ctype"                                                                    
>                                                                                            
> AUTO_DETECT_UTF8="no"                                                                        
>                                                                                                  
> INSTALLED_LANGUAGES="fr_FR"
>
>
> I deleted my home folder in TW, created it again and rebooted. This solved nothing.
>
>
> All help and comments welcome
> TIA
>
> Regards
> James
>

You need to let YaST rewrite the configuration.

- Open YaST and go to the system keyboard layout.
- Click on an arbitrary language and than (again) on the one, you want.
- Click on "OK"

This solved the issue for me last time.

Hendrik
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Re: TW keyboard map settings KO : I have QWERTY - I need AZERTY : SOLVED

James PEARSON

> Am 22.05.2017 um 20:37 schrieb James PEARSON:
> > I have reinstalled TW at least 3 times since using  only Lang=FR and Keymap=FR.
> > The installation goes fine but but when I reboot I always have QWERTY keyboard settings.  
> > I can connect to root if I type my root password using QWERTY keyboard map settings.  When I set the root password I was using AZERTY keyboard map settings.

> Hendrik Woltersdorf <[hidden email]> wrote :
> You need to let YaST rewrite the configuration.
> - Open YaST and go to the system keyboard layout.
> - Click on an arbitrary language and than (again) on the one, you want.
> - Click on "OK"
> This solved the issue for me last time.
> Hendrik

Thank your Hendrik . Your suggestion solved my problem.
I just wished that I had asked 10 days ago :)

Any idea on what file was updated to correct this problem?

Regards
James
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Re: TW keyboard map settings KO : I have QWERTY - I need AZERTY : SOLVED

Sudhir Anand
On Mon, 2017-05-22 at 22:27 +0200, James PEARSON wrote:

> > Am 22.05.2017 um 20:37 schrieb James PEARSON:
> > > I have reinstalled TW at least 3 times since using  only Lang=FR
> > > and Keymap=FR.
> > > The installation goes fine but but when I reboot I always have
> > > QWERTY keyboard settings.  
> > > I can connect to root if I type my root password using QWERTY
> > > keyboard map settings.  When I set the root password I was using
> > > AZERTY keyboard map settings.
> > Hendrik Woltersdorf <[hidden email]> wrote :
> > You need to let YaST rewrite the configuration.
> > - Open YaST and go to the system keyboard layout.
> > - Click on an arbitrary language and than (again) on the one, you
> > want.
> > - Click on "OK"
> > This solved the issue for me last time.
> > Hendrik
>
> Thank your Hendrik . Your suggestion solved my problem.
> I just wished that I had asked 10 days ago :)
>
> Any idea on what file was updated to correct this problem?
>
> Regards
> James

I have a laptop with UK keyboard.  TW sets it up as US instead.  I have
tried the above fix before and it does not work.

Does anyone know which files can be manually altered to correct this
annoyance?

Regards

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Re: TW keyboard map settings KO : I have QWERTY - I need AZERTY : SOLVED

opensuse.lietuviu.kalba
2017.05.23 08:37, Sudhir Anand rašė:
> I have a laptop with UK keyboard.  TW sets it up as US instead.  I have
> tried the above fix before and it does not work.
>
> Does anyone know which files can be manually altered to correct this
> annoyance?
>
> Regards
>
openSUSE has different configurations for console/terminal (TTY1-6) and
for graphical X11 system.

1. For console configuration, current openSUSE versions use KEYMAP
variable from /etc/vconsole.conf . If this file is missing/empty or
configuration is invalid – us keyboard will be used.
Note 1: you must run `mkinitrd` to take effect, because at boot system
reads /etc/vconsole.conf configuration from /boot/initrd , and not from
your hard disk.
Note 2: earlier versions of openSUSE used KEYTABLE variable from
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard, but this variable nowadays ignored.

2. Configuration for X11 is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf .
If missing or deleted, then X11 will be auto-configured by mapping
console>X11 keyboards  according /usr/share/systemd/kbd-model-map .
Note: for auto-configuration it seems that it will use loaded KEYMAP
variable from /etc/vconsole.conf configuration (that existed in
/boot/initrd), i.e. it will not read again /etc/vconsole.conf



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Re: TW keyboard map settings KO : I have QWERTY - I need AZERTY : SOLVED

Hendrik Woltersdorf-2
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Am 22.05.2017 um 22:27 schrieb James PEARSON:

>
>> Am 22.05.2017 um 20:37 schrieb James PEARSON:
>>> I have reinstalled TW at least 3 times since using  only Lang=FR and Keymap=FR.
>>> The installation goes fine but but when I reboot I always have QWERTY keyboard settings.  
>>> I can connect to root if I type my root password using QWERTY keyboard map settings.  When I set the root password I was using AZERTY keyboard map settings.
>
>> Hendrik Woltersdorf <[hidden email]> wrote :
>> You need to let YaST rewrite the configuration.
>> - Open YaST and go to the system keyboard layout.
>> - Click on an arbitrary language and than (again) on the one, you want.
>> - Click on "OK"
>> This solved the issue for me last time.
>> Hendrik
>
> Thank your Hendrik . Your suggestion solved my problem.
> I just wished that I had asked 10 days ago :)
>
> Any idea on what file was updated to correct this problem?
>
> Regards
> James
>
Sorry, but I never took  the time, to investigate this issue further.
But the files mentioned in the answer from opensuse.lietuviu.kalba could
be a good starting point.

Hendrik

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Sudhir Anand
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On Tue, 2017-05-23 at 10:05 +0300, opensuse.lietuviu.kalba wrote:

> 2017.05.23 08:37, Sudhir Anand rašė:
> > I have a laptop with UK keyboard.  TW sets it up as US instead.  I
> > have
> > tried the above fix before and it does not work.
> >
> > Does anyone know which files can be manually altered to correct
> > this
> > annoyance?
> >
> > Regards
> >
>
> openSUSE has different configurations for console/terminal (TTY1-6)
> and
> for graphical X11 system.
>
> 1. For console configuration, current openSUSE versions use KEYMAP
> variable from /etc/vconsole.conf . If this file is missing/empty or
> configuration is invalid – us keyboard will be used.
> Note 1: you must run `mkinitrd` to take effect, because at boot
> system
> reads /etc/vconsole.conf configuration from /boot/initrd , and not
> from
> your hard disk.
> Note 2: earlier versions of openSUSE used KEYTABLE variable from
> /etc/sysconfig/keyboard, but this variable nowadays ignored.
>
> 2. Configuration for X11 is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf
> .
> If missing or deleted, then X11 will be auto-configured by mapping
> console>X11 keyboards  according /usr/share/systemd/kbd-model-map .
> Note: for auto-configuration it seems that it will use loaded KEYMAP
> variable from /etc/vconsole.conf configuration (that existed in
> /boot/initrd), i.e. it will not read again /etc/vconsole.conf
>
>
>
Hi.  I made the changes to vconsole.conf and 00-keyboard.conf but it
had no effect.  The keyboard is still mapped as US.  I have Leap 42.2
installed and it recognises the keyboard correctly as gb.

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Re: TW keyboard map settings KO : I have QWERTY - I need AZERTY : SOLVED

Carlos E. R.-2
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On 2017-05-23 22:10, Sudhir Anand wrote:
> Hi.  I made the changes to vconsole.conf and 00-keyboard.conf but
> it had no effect.  The keyboard is still mapped as US.  I have Leap
> 42.2 installed and it recognises the keyboard correctly as gb.

Don't forget to run mkinitrd after those changes. And maybe reboot.

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                Carlos E. R.

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Sudhir Anand
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On Tue, 2017-05-23 at 20:10 +0000, Sudhir Anand wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-05-23 at 10:05 +0300, opensuse.lietuviu.kalba wrote:
> > 2017.05.23 08:37, Sudhir Anand rašė:
> > > I have a laptop with UK keyboard.  TW sets it up as US
> > > instead.  I
> > > have
> > > tried the above fix before and it does not work.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know which files can be manually altered to correct
> > > this
> > > annoyance?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> >
> > <snip>

After the latest update to TW, the keyboard issue has been fixed.
There is a task bar app called Ibus which shows keyboard layout is US.
It allows a change and is now correctly set to GB.

Is this a new feature as I have not seen it before?

Regards.

Sudhir
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Hendrik Woltersdorf-2
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Am 23.05.2017 um 18:12 schrieb Hendrik Woltersdorf:

> Am 22.05.2017 um 22:27 schrieb James PEARSON:
>>
>>> Am 22.05.2017 um 20:37 schrieb James PEARSON:
>>>> I have reinstalled TW at least 3 times since using  only Lang=FR and Keymap=FR.
>>>> The installation goes fine but but when I reboot I always have QWERTY keyboard settings.  
>>>> I can connect to root if I type my root password using QWERTY keyboard map settings.  When I set the root password I was using AZERTY keyboard map settings.
>>
>>> Hendrik Woltersdorf <[hidden email]> wrote :
>>> You need to let YaST rewrite the configuration.
>>> - Open YaST and go to the system keyboard layout.
>>> - Click on an arbitrary language and than (again) on the one, you want.
>>> - Click on "OK"
>>> This solved the issue for me last time.
>>> Hendrik
>>
>> Thank your Hendrik . Your suggestion solved my problem.
>> I just wished that I had asked 10 days ago :)
>>
>> Any idea on what file was updated to correct this problem?
>>
>> Regards
>> James
>>
> Sorry, but I never took  the time, to investigate this issue further.
> But the files mentioned in the answer from opensuse.lietuviu.kalba could
> be a good starting point.
>
> Hendrik
>
Today I took the time.

With the help of btrfs and snapper I found, that the file
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf was created and the initrd rebuilt.

In /var/lib/hardware the file, describing the keyboard, was changed too
(/var/lib/hardware/udi/nLyy.+49ps10DtUF), but I have no idea if it makes
any sense to edit this file manually.

Regards,
Hendrik
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