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Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?

Andreas Jaeger-8
On 04/01/2012 02:41 AM, Sven Burmeister wrote:

> Am Samstag, 31. März 2012, 19:18:42 schrieb Brian K. White:
>> On 3/29/2012 2:36 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> most of the people in this list are KDE users
>>
>> That's fascinating. How do you divine this?
>
> Simply by assuming the same statistical distribution applies to this list and
> the distro.
>
> KDE is the most often used DE among oS users and hence most users on this list
> are assumed to use KDE. The former was measured some time ago.

Btw. Have a look at these numbers:

http://news.opensuse.org/2011/11/19/opensuse-12-1-launch-feedback/

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Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?

Carlos E. R.-2
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On 2012-04-02 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> On 04/01/2012 02:41 AM, Sven Burmeister wrote:

> Btw. Have a look at these numbers:
>
> http://news.opensuse.org/2011/11/19/opensuse-12-1-launch-feedback/

GNOME-LiveCD: 7392
KDE-LiveCD: 5561

So, most users are gnome users, not kde :-)

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Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?

Andreas Jaeger-8
On Monday, April 02, 2012 13:51:24 Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2012-04-02 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > On 04/01/2012 02:41 AM, Sven Burmeister wrote:
> >
> > Btw. Have a look at these numbers:
> >
> > http://news.opensuse.org/2011/11/19/opensuse-12-1-launch-feedback/
>
> GNOME-LiveCD: 7392
> KDE-LiveCD: 5561
>
> So, most users are gnome users, not kde :-)

Yep, if you only cite some numbers and leave out the others, this is a
perfect reasoning.

Those are the 32-bit numbers.

64-bit x86-64 numbers:
GNOME-LiveCD: 4031
KDE-LiveCD: 4378

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Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?

Will Stephenson-2
On Monday 02 Apr 2012 14:02:27 Andreas Jaeger wrote:

> On Monday, April 02, 2012 13:51:24 Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > On 2012-04-02 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > > On 04/01/2012 02:41 AM, Sven Burmeister wrote:
> > >
> > > Btw. Have a look at these numbers:
> > >
> > > http://news.opensuse.org/2011/11/19/opensuse-12-1-launch-feedback/
> >
> > GNOME-LiveCD: 7392
> > KDE-LiveCD: 5561
> >
> > So, most users are gnome users, not kde :-)
>
> Yep, if you only cite some numbers and leave out the others, this is a
> perfect reasoning.

A priori, the higher number of GNOME i586 LiveCD downloads can be explained by
our users' curiosity about the first openSUSE with a stable GNOME 3 on it,
since this was the headline item in our release publicity, and (factoring out
ethnic rivalries) the most interesting thing about 12.1.  

I would like to point out that we should be able to do a lot better than 90000
downloads total in the first 24 hours and quibbling about the desktop share of
a four-figure fraction of that is a pitiful waste of this community's time,
which would be better invested in making release publicity for 12.2, building
up grassroots promotion channels and, dare I say it, engineering.

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Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?

Carlos E. R.-2
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On 2012-04-02 14:02, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> On Monday, April 02, 2012 13:51:24 Carlos E. R. wrote:


>> So, most users are gnome users, not kde :-)
>
> Yep, if you only cite some numbers and leave out the others, this is a
> perfect reasoning.

I know, that was intentional on my part. I wanted to tease a bit the kde
fans O:-)

> Those are the 32-bit numbers.
>
> 64-bit x86-64 numbers:
> GNOME-LiveCD: 4031
> KDE-LiveCD: 4378

Even adding both 32 and 64 bits download, gnome wins.

However, many more people downloaded the dvd, but here it is not possible
to know what they install (I install both gnome and kde).

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Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?

Carlos E. R.-2
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On 2012-04-02 14:43, Will Stephenson wrote:

> A priori, the higher number of GNOME i586 LiveCD downloads can be explained by
> our users' curiosity about the first openSUSE with a stable GNOME 3 on it,
> since this was the headline item in our release publicity, and (factoring out
> ethnic rivalries) the most interesting thing about 12.1.  

It is possible.

I would be curious about the numbers if 11.2 also offered CDs for other
desktops.

> I would like to point out that we should be able to do a lot better than 90000
> downloads total in the first 24 hours and quibbling about the desktop share of
> a four-figure fraction of that is a pitiful waste of this community's time,
> which would be better invested in making release publicity for 12.2, building
> up grassroots promotion channels and, dare I say it, engineering.

Indeed :-)

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Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?

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On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 13:51 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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> On 2012-04-02 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > On 04/01/2012 02:41 AM, Sven Burmeister wrote:
>
> > Btw. Have a look at these numbers:
> >
> > http://news.opensuse.org/2011/11/19/opensuse-12-1-launch-feedback/
>
> GNOME-LiveCD: 7392
> KDE-LiveCD: 5561
>
> So, most users are gnome users, not kde :-)
>
Or,
First they downloaded and burned the image to CD,
After booting it, they come to the conclusion, that something must have
gne wrong during the download, so they download it again, and again...
But the quality doesn't improve ;-)))

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