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Re: X.Org 7 for Factory

Juan Erbes-2
Yesterday I have updated my box to Xorg 7, and got some problems to
start kde, many of them resolved with the instructions from Stefan.
One of the problems was with sax2 that configures  the font path as
/usr/lib/X11/fonts, when I have moved the fonts from
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts. I resolved this problem
with a symlink.
The other problem related to the fonts is in kde, because any qt
application loads any text (such as konsole). Only the gtk
applications loads partially the fonts to show the text and menus.

Thanks

2006/8/1, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:

> Hi
>
> We currently are switching to X.Org 7 for Factory. This might result
> in package build failures. Some hints for packagers to adjust their
> packages:
>
> Changes in X.Org 7 (important for packagers)
> --------------------------------------------
> - X.Org libs: /usr/X11R6/%_lib --> /usr/%_lib
>   * sometimes you need to add '--x-libraries=/usr/%{_lib}'
>     configure option (if available); background: use "-L $AC_PATH_X"
>     with care - if prefix is /usr, $AC_PATH_X is empty.
> - X.Org executables: /usr/X11R6/bin --> /usr/bin
>   * adjust %files section accordingly when required, e.g. when package
>     uses imake
> - if autobuild expansion errors for libX11, etc. arises:
>   * either add an additional line '#!BuildIgnore: NX' or package
>     'xorg-x11-devel' to Buildrequires; Update: probably this problem
>     will be resolved inside of autobuild
> - X.Org manual path: /usr/X11R6/man --> %_mandir
>   * adjust %files section accordingly
> - Xserver SDK package: xorg-x11-sdk --> xorg-x11-server-sdk
>   * adjust your BuildRequires
> - X.Org pixmaps: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/ --> /usr/include/X11/pixmaps/
>   * adjust %files section accordingly
> - X.Org Xserver modules:
>   /usr/X11R6/%{_lib}/modules --> /usr/%{_lib}/xorg/modules
>   * adjust %files section accordingly
> - Mesa DRI drivers: /usr/X11R6/%{_lib}/modules/dri --> /usr/%{_lib}/dri
>   * adjust %files section accordingly
> - XKeysymDB: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysmDB --> /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB
>   * make sure $XKEYSYMDB is *not* set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysmDB,
>     but /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB instead
> - nls/ directory: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls --> /usr/share/X11/nls
>   * only interesting for legacy apps
> - X.Org fonts: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts --> /usr/share/fonts
>   * move fonts of other font packages as well? /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
>     will still be allowed ...
> - Xserver include files:
>   /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/include --> /usr/include/xorg
>   * adjust configure options or Imakefiles/Makefiles
> - xkb files: /etc/X11/xkb --> /usr/share/X11/xkb
> - termcap files: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc --> /usr/lib/X11/etc
> - /usr/lib/X11 is no longer a symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, but a
>   real directory!
> - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults --> /usr/share/X11/app-defaults
>   * /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults is still read, but should we
>     disallow the use of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults nevertheless
>     in autobuild?
>
> Package changes:
> ----------------
> xorg-x11                       --> xorg-x11
>                                    +xorg-x11-fonts
>                                    +xorg-x11-fonts-devel
> xorg-x11-Xnest
> +xorg-x11-Xprt
> +xorg-x11-Xvfb                 --> xorg-x11-server
> xorg-x11-Xvnc                  (not yet available - on my TODO list)
> xorg-x11-devel                 --> xorg-x11-devel
>                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>-devel
>                                    +xorg-x11-proto-devel
>                                    +xorg-x11-util-devel
>                                    +xorg-x11-xtrans-devel
> xorg-x11-doc                   --> xorg-x11-doc
> xorg-x11-driver-options       (obsolete)
> xorg-x11-driver-video
> +xorg-x11-driver-video-nvidia  --> xorg-x11-driver-video
> xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi
> +xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi
> +xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic
> +xorg-x11-fonts-scalable
> +xorg-x11-fonts-syriac         --> xorg-x11-fonts
> xorg-x11-libs                  --> xorg-x11-libs
>                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>
> xorg-x11-man                   --> xorg-x11-devel
>                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>-devel
> xorg-x11-sdk                   --> xorg-x11-server-sdk
> xorg-x11-server
> +xorg-x11-server-glx           --> xorg-x11-server
>                                    +xorg-x11-driver-input
>                                    +xorg-x11-driver-video
>
> In most cases for building X11 apps it should be enough to add
> 'xorg-x11-devel' to BuildRequires (as before). If you need Xvfb add
> also 'xorg-x11-server'. And if you're building external input/video
> drivers add 'xorg-x11-server-sdk'.
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan
>
> Public Key available
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.)   SUSE LINUX Products GmbH
> Tel: 0911-740 53 0            Maxfeldstraße 5
> FAX: 0911-740 53 479          D-90409 Nürnberg
> http://www.suse.de            Germany
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Re: X.Org 7 for Factory

Ryan Lewon
A lot of the packages are not updated to be compatible with Xorg 7 there is
another repository in the repositories list that has xorg7 QT built
packages.. etc.

On 8/6/06, Juan Erbes <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Yesterday I have updated my box to Xorg 7, and got some problems to
> start kde, many of them resolved with the instructions from Stefan.
> One of the problems was with sax2 that configures  the font path as
> /usr/lib/X11/fonts, when I have moved the fonts from
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts. I resolved this problem
> with a symlink.
> The other problem related to the fonts is in kde, because any qt
> application loads any text (such as konsole). Only the gtk
> applications loads partially the fonts to show the text and menus.
>
> Thanks
>
> 2006/8/1, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:
> > Hi
> >
> > We currently are switching to X.Org 7 for Factory. This might result
> > in package build failures. Some hints for packagers to adjust their
> > packages:
> >
> > Changes in X.Org 7 (important for packagers)
> > --------------------------------------------
> > - X.Org libs: /usr/X11R6/%_lib --> /usr/%_lib
> >   * sometimes you need to add '--x-libraries=/usr/%{_lib}'
> >     configure option (if available); background: use "-L $AC_PATH_X"
> >     with care - if prefix is /usr, $AC_PATH_X is empty.
> > - X.Org executables: /usr/X11R6/bin --> /usr/bin
> >   * adjust %files section accordingly when required, e.g. when package
> >     uses imake
> > - if autobuild expansion errors for libX11, etc. arises:
> >   * either add an additional line '#!BuildIgnore: NX' or package
> >     'xorg-x11-devel' to Buildrequires; Update: probably this problem
> >     will be resolved inside of autobuild
> > - X.Org manual path: /usr/X11R6/man --> %_mandir
> >   * adjust %files section accordingly
> > - Xserver SDK package: xorg-x11-sdk --> xorg-x11-server-sdk
> >   * adjust your BuildRequires
> > - X.Org pixmaps: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/ -->
> /usr/include/X11/pixmaps/
> >   * adjust %files section accordingly
> > - X.Org Xserver modules:
> >   /usr/X11R6/%{_lib}/modules --> /usr/%{_lib}/xorg/modules
> >   * adjust %files section accordingly
> > - Mesa DRI drivers: /usr/X11R6/%{_lib}/modules/dri --> /usr/%{_lib}/dri
> >   * adjust %files section accordingly
> > - XKeysymDB: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysmDB --> /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB
> >   * make sure $XKEYSYMDB is *not* set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysmDB,
> >     but /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB instead
> > - nls/ directory: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls --> /usr/share/X11/nls
> >   * only interesting for legacy apps
> > - X.Org fonts: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts --> /usr/share/fonts
> >   * move fonts of other font packages as well? /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
> >     will still be allowed ...
> > - Xserver include files:
> >   /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/include --> /usr/include/xorg
> >   * adjust configure options or Imakefiles/Makefiles
> > - xkb files: /etc/X11/xkb --> /usr/share/X11/xkb
> > - termcap files: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc --> /usr/lib/X11/etc
> > - /usr/lib/X11 is no longer a symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, but a
> >   real directory!
> > - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults --> /usr/share/X11/app-defaults
> >   * /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults is still read, but should we
> >     disallow the use of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults nevertheless
> >     in autobuild?
> >
> > Package changes:
> > ----------------
> > xorg-x11                       --> xorg-x11
> >                                    +xorg-x11-fonts
> >                                    +xorg-x11-fonts-devel
> > xorg-x11-Xnest
> > +xorg-x11-Xprt
> > +xorg-x11-Xvfb                 --> xorg-x11-server
> > xorg-x11-Xvnc                  (not yet available - on my TODO list)
> > xorg-x11-devel                 --> xorg-x11-devel
> >                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>-devel
> >                                    +xorg-x11-proto-devel
> >                                    +xorg-x11-util-devel
> >                                    +xorg-x11-xtrans-devel
> > xorg-x11-doc                   --> xorg-x11-doc
> > xorg-x11-driver-options       (obsolete)
> > xorg-x11-driver-video
> > +xorg-x11-driver-video-nvidia  --> xorg-x11-driver-video
> > xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi
> > +xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi
> > +xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic
> > +xorg-x11-fonts-scalable
> > +xorg-x11-fonts-syriac         --> xorg-x11-fonts
> > xorg-x11-libs                  --> xorg-x11-libs
> >                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>
> > xorg-x11-man                   --> xorg-x11-devel
> >                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>-devel
> > xorg-x11-sdk                   --> xorg-x11-server-sdk
> > xorg-x11-server
> > +xorg-x11-server-glx           --> xorg-x11-server
> >                                    +xorg-x11-driver-input
> >                                    +xorg-x11-driver-video
> >
> > In most cases for building X11 apps it should be enough to add
> > 'xorg-x11-devel' to BuildRequires (as before). If you need Xvfb add
> > also 'xorg-x11-server'. And if you're building external input/video
> > drivers add 'xorg-x11-server-sdk'.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Stefan
> >
> > Public Key available
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.)   SUSE LINUX Products GmbH
> > Tel: 0911-740 53 0            Maxfeldstraße 5
> > FAX: 0911-740 53 479          D-90409 Nürnberg
> > http://www.suse.de            Germany
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> >
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Re: X.Org 7 for Factory

Juan Erbes-2
Please, can You tell me the link of those repos?

Thanks

2006/8/6, Ryan Lewon <[hidden email]>:

> A lot of the packages are not updated to be compatible with Xorg 7 there is
> another repository in the repositories list that has xorg7 QT built
> packages.. etc.
>
> On 8/6/06, Juan Erbes <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Yesterday I have updated my box to Xorg 7, and got some problems to
> > start kde, many of them resolved with the instructions from Stefan.
> > One of the problems was with sax2 that configures  the font path as
> > /usr/lib/X11/fonts, when I have moved the fonts from
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts. I resolved this problem
> > with a symlink.
> > The other problem related to the fonts is in kde, because any qt
> > application loads any text (such as konsole). Only the gtk
> > applications loads partially the fonts to show the text and menus.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > 2006/8/1, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > We currently are switching to X.Org 7 for Factory. This might result
> > > in package build failures. Some hints for packagers to adjust their
> > > packages:
> > >
> > > Changes in X.Org 7 (important for packagers)
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > - X.Org libs: /usr/X11R6/%_lib --> /usr/%_lib
> > >   * sometimes you need to add '--x-libraries=/usr/%{_lib}'
> > >     configure option (if available); background: use "-L $AC_PATH_X"
> > >     with care - if prefix is /usr, $AC_PATH_X is empty.
> > > - X.Org executables: /usr/X11R6/bin --> /usr/bin
> > >   * adjust %files section accordingly when required, e.g. when package
> > >     uses imake
> > > - if autobuild expansion errors for libX11, etc. arises:
> > >   * either add an additional line '#!BuildIgnore: NX' or package
> > >     'xorg-x11-devel' to Buildrequires; Update: probably this problem
> > >     will be resolved inside of autobuild
> > > - X.Org manual path: /usr/X11R6/man --> %_mandir
> > >   * adjust %files section accordingly
> > > - Xserver SDK package: xorg-x11-sdk --> xorg-x11-server-sdk
> > >   * adjust your BuildRequires
> > > - X.Org pixmaps: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/ -->
> > /usr/include/X11/pixmaps/
> > >   * adjust %files section accordingly
> > > - X.Org Xserver modules:
> > >   /usr/X11R6/%{_lib}/modules --> /usr/%{_lib}/xorg/modules
> > >   * adjust %files section accordingly
> > > - Mesa DRI drivers: /usr/X11R6/%{_lib}/modules/dri --> /usr/%{_lib}/dri
> > >   * adjust %files section accordingly
> > > - XKeysymDB: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysmDB --> /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB
> > >   * make sure $XKEYSYMDB is *not* set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysmDB,
> > >     but /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB instead
> > > - nls/ directory: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls --> /usr/share/X11/nls
> > >   * only interesting for legacy apps
> > > - X.Org fonts: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts --> /usr/share/fonts
> > >   * move fonts of other font packages as well? /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
> > >     will still be allowed ...
> > > - Xserver include files:
> > >   /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/include --> /usr/include/xorg
> > >   * adjust configure options or Imakefiles/Makefiles
> > > - xkb files: /etc/X11/xkb --> /usr/share/X11/xkb
> > > - termcap files: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc --> /usr/lib/X11/etc
> > > - /usr/lib/X11 is no longer a symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, but a
> > >   real directory!
> > > - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults --> /usr/share/X11/app-defaults
> > >   * /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults is still read, but should we
> > >     disallow the use of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults nevertheless
> > >     in autobuild?
> > >
> > > Package changes:
> > > ----------------
> > > xorg-x11                       --> xorg-x11
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-fonts
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-fonts-devel
> > > xorg-x11-Xnest
> > > +xorg-x11-Xprt
> > > +xorg-x11-Xvfb                 --> xorg-x11-server
> > > xorg-x11-Xvnc                  (not yet available - on my TODO list)
> > > xorg-x11-devel                 --> xorg-x11-devel
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>-devel
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-proto-devel
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-util-devel
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-xtrans-devel
> > > xorg-x11-doc                   --> xorg-x11-doc
> > > xorg-x11-driver-options       (obsolete)
> > > xorg-x11-driver-video
> > > +xorg-x11-driver-video-nvidia  --> xorg-x11-driver-video
> > > xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi
> > > +xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi
> > > +xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic
> > > +xorg-x11-fonts-scalable
> > > +xorg-x11-fonts-syriac         --> xorg-x11-fonts
> > > xorg-x11-libs                  --> xorg-x11-libs
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>
> > > xorg-x11-man                   --> xorg-x11-devel
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-lib<foo>-devel
> > > xorg-x11-sdk                   --> xorg-x11-server-sdk
> > > xorg-x11-server
> > > +xorg-x11-server-glx           --> xorg-x11-server
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-driver-input
> > >                                    +xorg-x11-driver-video
> > >
> > > In most cases for building X11 apps it should be enough to add
> > > 'xorg-x11-devel' to BuildRequires (as before). If you need Xvfb add
> > > also 'xorg-x11-server'. And if you're building external input/video
> > > drivers add 'xorg-x11-server-sdk'.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Stefan
> > >
> > > Public Key available
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.)   SUSE LINUX Products GmbH
> > > Tel: 0911-740 53 0            Maxfeldstraße 5
> > > FAX: 0911-740 53 479          D-90409 Nürnberg
> > > http://www.suse.de            Germany
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Re: X.Org 7 for Factory

Stefan Dirsch
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On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 05:32:40PM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
> Yesterday I have updated my box to Xorg 7, and got some problems to
> start kde, many of them resolved with the instructions from Stefan.

Hmm ... this should not happen. How did you update to X.Org 7? Which
packages did you install from which repository? I recommend to simply
install all packages of

SUSE 10.1:
http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10.1/

Factory:
http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/SUSE_Factory/

> One of the problems was with sax2 that configures  the font path as
> /usr/lib/X11/fonts,

sax2/Factory already uses /usr/share/fonts, sax2/10.1 still uses
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts. BTW, reconfiguration with sax2 should not
have been required, since xorg.conf is already patched in %post of
xorg-x11-server package to use the new font path.

> when I have moved the fonts from
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts. I resolved this problem
> with a symlink.

I cannot recommend to do so. Did you run SuSEconfig (--module fonts)
after the packages update?

> The other problem related to the fonts is in kde, because any qt
> application loads any text (such as konsole). Only the gtk
> applications loads partially the fonts to show the text and menus.

Sounds like a completely messed up font setup.

Best regards,
Stefan

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Re: X.Org 7 for Factory

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2006/8/7, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:
> On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 05:32:40PM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
> > Yesterday I have updated my box to Xorg 7, and got some problems to
> > start kde, many of them resolved with the instructions from Stefan.
>
> Hmm ... this should not happen. How did you update to X.Org 7? Which
> packages did you install from which repository?

I made the update via smart upgrade.

 I recommend to simply

> install all packages of
>
> SUSE 10.1:
> http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10.1/
>
> Factory:
> http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/SUSE_Factory/
>
> > One of the problems was with sax2 that configures  the font path as
> > /usr/lib/X11/fonts,
>
> sax2/Factory already uses /usr/share/fonts, sax2/10.1 still uses
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts. BTW, reconfiguration with sax2 should not
> have been required, since xorg.conf is already patched in %post of
> xorg-x11-server package to use the new font path.
>
> > when I have moved the fonts from
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts. I resolved this problem
> > with a symlink.
>
> I cannot recommend to do so. Did you run SuSEconfig (--module fonts)
> after the packages update?

Yes, I runned it.

> > The other problem related to the fonts is in kde, because any qt
> > application loads any text (such as konsole). Only the gtk
> > applications loads partially the fonts to show the text and menus.
>
> Sounds like a completely messed up font setup.

/usr/share/fonts is the right font path for all the fonts?

How detects kde the right font path, and how can configure it, when I
do'nt see any text in the Control Panel?

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On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:06:06AM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
> 2006/8/7, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:
> >On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 05:32:40PM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
> >> Yesterday I have updated my box to Xorg 7, and got some problems to
> >> start kde, many of them resolved with the instructions from Stefan.
> >
> >Hmm ... this should not happen. How did you update to X.Org 7? Which
> >packages did you install from which repository?
>
> I made the update via smart upgrade.

Well, this answers only my first question. :-(

> I recommend to simply
> >install all packages of
> >
> >SUSE 10.1:
> >http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10.1/
> >
> >Factory:
> >http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/SUSE_Factory/
> >
> >> One of the problems was with sax2 that configures  the font path as
> >> /usr/lib/X11/fonts,
> >
> >sax2/Factory already uses /usr/share/fonts, sax2/10.1 still uses
> >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts. BTW, reconfiguration with sax2 should not
> >have been required, since xorg.conf is already patched in %post of
> >xorg-x11-server package to use the new font path.
> >
> >> when I have moved the fonts from
> >> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts. I resolved this problem
> >> with a symlink.
> >
> >I cannot recommend to do so. Did you run SuSEconfig (--module fonts)
> >after the packages update?
>
> Yes, I runned it.

Good!

> >> The other problem related to the fonts is in kde, because any qt
> >> application loads any text (such as konsole). Only the gtk
> >> applications loads partially the fonts to show the text and menus.
> >
> >Sounds like a completely messed up font setup.
>
> /usr/share/fonts is the right font path for all the fonts?
>
> How detects kde the right font path, and how can configure it, when I
> do'nt see any text in the Control Panel?

KDE uses client side font rendering via fontconfig/freetype and
/usr/share/fonts as well as /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts is in
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf since quite some time.  So it doesn't matter,
which font paths are configured in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Best regards,
Stefan

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On 8/7/06, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:06:06AM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
> > 2006/8/7, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:
> > >On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 05:32:40PM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
> > >> Yesterday I have updated my box to Xorg 7, and got some problems to
> > >> start kde, many of them resolved with the instructions from Stefan.
> > >
> > >Hmm ... this should not happen. How did you update to X.Org 7? Which
> > >packages did you install from which repository?
> >
> > I made the update via smart upgrade.
>
> Well, this answers only my first question. :-(
>
> > I recommend to simply
> > >install all packages of
> > >
> > >SUSE 10.1:
> > >http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10.1/
> > >
> > >Factory:
> > >http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/SUSE_Factory/
> > >
> > >> One of the problems was with sax2 that configures  the font path as
> > >> /usr/lib/X11/fonts,
> > >
> > >sax2/Factory already uses /usr/share/fonts, sax2/10.1 still uses
> > >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts. BTW, reconfiguration with sax2 should not
> > >have been required, since xorg.conf is already patched in %post of
> > >xorg-x11-server package to use the new font path.
> > >
> > >> when I have moved the fonts from
> > >> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts. I resolved this problem
> > >> with a symlink.
> > >
> > >I cannot recommend to do so. Did you run SuSEconfig (--module fonts)
> > >after the packages update?
> >
> > Yes, I runned it.
>
> Good!
>
> > >> The other problem related to the fonts is in kde, because any qt
> > >> application loads any text (such as konsole). Only the gtk
> > >> applications loads partially the fonts to show the text and menus.
> > >
> > >Sounds like a completely messed up font setup.
> >
> > /usr/share/fonts is the right font path for all the fonts?
> >
> > How detects kde the right font path, and how can configure it, when I
> > do'nt see any text in the Control Panel?
>
> KDE uses client side font rendering via fontconfig/freetype and
> /usr/share/fonts as well as /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts is in
> /etc/fonts/fonts.conf since quite some time.  So it doesn't matter,
> which font paths are configured in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
>

Hi, Stefan,

I can reproduce this problem with missing fonts in KDE and blinking
fonts in Gnome when nvidia driver is enabled, after switching to
nv-driver back problem is gone.
I installed driver with --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/, as
otherways didnt driver work at all. Using SLED 10 on x86.

Ain

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Stefan Dirsch
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:34:12PM +0300, Ain Vagula wrote:
> I can reproduce this problem with missing fonts in KDE and blinking
> fonts in Gnome when nvidia driver is enabled, after switching to
> nv-driver back problem is gone.
> I installed driver with --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/, as
> otherways didnt driver work at all. Using SLED 10 on x86.

Oops, we're talking about a driver issue! This is known problem of the
NVIDIA driver with X.Org > 7.1 (Bug #197090).

BTW, I've documented a workaround in my HOWTO

http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html

--> openSUSE 10.2-IA32 (>= Alpha3)
--> openSUSE 10.2-AMD64 (>= Alpha3)

Best regards,
Stefan

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Ain Vagula
On 8/7/06, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:34:12PM +0300, Ain Vagula wrote:
> > I can reproduce this problem with missing fonts in KDE and blinking
> > fonts in Gnome when nvidia driver is enabled, after switching to
> > nv-driver back problem is gone.
> > I installed driver with --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/, as
> > otherways didnt driver work at all. Using SLED 10 on x86.
>
> Oops, we're talking about a driver issue! This is known problem of the
> NVIDIA driver with X.Org > 7.1 (Bug #197090).
>
> BTW, I've documented a workaround in my HOWTO
>
> http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html
>
> --> openSUSE 10.2-IA32 (>= Alpha3)
> --> openSUSE 10.2-AMD64 (>= Alpha3)
>

Thanks, it works pretty good. Of course I did read at first only 'my'
section of howto, it means about SLED10 :)

Ain

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Juan Erbes-2
In reply to this post by Stefan Dirsch
2006/8/7, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:

> On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:34:12PM +0300, Ain Vagula wrote:
> > I can reproduce this problem with missing fonts in KDE and blinking
> > fonts in Gnome when nvidia driver is enabled, after switching to
> > nv-driver back problem is gone.
> > I installed driver with --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/, as
> > otherways didnt driver work at all. Using SLED 10 on x86.
>
> Oops, we're talking about a driver issue! This is known problem of the
> NVIDIA driver with X.Org > 7.1 (Bug #197090).
>
> BTW, I've documented a workaround in my HOWTO
>
> http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html
>
> --> openSUSE 10.2-IA32 (>= Alpha3)
> --> openSUSE 10.2-AMD64 (>= Alpha3)
>

Thanks, the problems are resolved.

Best Regards,
                      Juan

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2006/8/7, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:

> On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:34:12PM +0300, Ain Vagula wrote:
> > I can reproduce this problem with missing fonts in KDE and blinking
> > fonts in Gnome when nvidia driver is enabled, after switching to
> > nv-driver back problem is gone.
> > I installed driver with --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/, as
> > otherways didnt driver work at all. Using SLED 10 on x86.
>
> Oops, we're talking about a driver issue! This is known problem of the
> NVIDIA driver with X.Org > 7.1 (Bug #197090).
>
> BTW, I've documented a workaround in my HOWTO

I have 2 problems with Xorg, is that kdm fails. I must use startx in console.
The logs are:

kdm.log:
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Aug  5 23:36:23 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Given color depth (1) is not supported
(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found


The other problem, is with the Nvidia driver, installed witht
--x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/ and in the xorg.conf in driver
section Option "RenderAccel" "no", I can't see any text in any qt
application. With the nv driver I have'nt this problem.

The last problem was with the smart upgrade tool, it would to
downgrade all the Xorg packages. I mean that I need to add the new
repo for the Xorg packages.

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Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 09:36:46AM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:

> 2006/8/7, Stefan Dirsch <[hidden email]>:
> >On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:34:12PM +0300, Ain Vagula wrote:
> >> I can reproduce this problem with missing fonts in KDE and blinking
> >> fonts in Gnome when nvidia driver is enabled, after switching to
> >> nv-driver back problem is gone.
> >> I installed driver with --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/, as
> >> otherways didnt driver work at all. Using SLED 10 on x86.
> >
> >Oops, we're talking about a driver issue! This is known problem of the
> >NVIDIA driver with X.Org > 7.1 (Bug #197090).
> >
> >BTW, I've documented a workaround in my HOWTO
>
> I have 2 problems with Xorg, is that kdm fails. I must use startx in
> console.
> The logs are:
>
> kdm.log:
> Module Loader present
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Aug  5 23:36:23 2006
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Given color depth (1) is not supported
> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found

I need the complete log- and configfile to investigate this issue.

> The other problem, is with the Nvidia driver, installed witht
> --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/ and in the xorg.conf in driver
> section Option "RenderAccel" "no", I can't see any text in any qt
> application. With the nv driver I have'nt this problem.

I can't reproduce this. This option fixes the issue for me.

Stefan

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