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Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

ASSI

With the new Plasma the Digital Clock apparently got changed to show the
desktop widget without the widget background and invert the font color
from black to white instead with a tiny shadow drawn around it.  Now, I
have a light gray background, so that really isn't very readable now.  I
can see no way of getting the old behaviour back, so is there something
I can do in the config files perhaps?


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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

Luca Beltrame
In data venerdì 14 febbraio 2020 06:49:19 CET, ASSI ha scritto:

> can see no way of getting the old behaviour back, so is there something
> I can do in the config files perhaps?

Long press on the widget (click and hold with the left mouse button) and click
on the third icon from the top. This will restore the background.

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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

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> With the new Plasma the Digital Clock apparently got changed to show the
> desktop widget without the widget background and invert the font color
> from black to white instead with a tiny shadow drawn around it.  Now, I
> have a light gray background, so that really isn't very readable now.  I
> can see no way of getting the old behaviour back, so is there something
> I can do in the config files perhaps?
Long press click on the clock widget so that the handle appears, then there is
a Show Background button at the bottom.

Have a great time,
Jure Repinc


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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

ASSI
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Luca Beltrame writes:
>> can see no way of getting the old behaviour back, so is there something
>> I can do in the config files perhaps?
>
> Long press on the widget (click and hold with the left mouse button) and click
> on the third icon from the top. This will restore the background.

Well, here's the next problem: I've had the widgets locked and the menu
to unlock the widgets just doesn't show up anymore.  Not on the
widghets, not on the desktop and not on the panel…


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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

Hans-Peter Jansen-2
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2020, 21:34:24 CET schrieb Achim Gratz:

> Luca Beltrame writes:
> >> can see no way of getting the old behaviour back, so is there something
> >> I can do in the config files perhaps?
> >
> > Long press on the widget (click and hold with the left mouse button) and
> > click on the third icon from the top. This will restore the background.
>
> Well, here's the next problem: I've had the widgets locked and the menu
> to unlock the widgets just doesn't show up anymore.  Not on the
> widghets, not on the desktop and not on the panel…

Have you tried Customize Layout... in the Desktop context menu, or Alt+D, E?

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Pete


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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

ASSI
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Achim Gratz writes:

> Luca Beltrame writes:
>>> can see no way of getting the old behaviour back, so is there something
>>> I can do in the config files perhaps?
>>
>> Long press on the widget (click and hold with the left mouse button) and click
>> on the third icon from the top. This will restore the background.
>
> Well, here's the next problem: I've had the widgets locked and the menu
> to unlock the widgets just doesn't show up anymore.  Not on the
> widgets, not on the desktop and not on the panel…

So I had to fire up the scripting console and run lockCorona(false) in
it to get at that settings menu.


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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

Wolfgang Bauer
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2020, 22:01:56 schrieb Achim Gratz:
> Achim Gratz writes:
> > Well, here's the next problem: I've had the widgets locked and the menu
> > to unlock the widgets just doesn't show up anymore.  Not on the
> > widgets, not on the desktop and not on the panel…
>
> So I had to fire up the scripting console and run lockCorona(false) in
> it to get at that settings menu.
That's a problem that already is fixed (after the 5.18.0 release), but
apparently it didn't make to Tumbleweed yet...

https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/774303

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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

ASSI
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Hans-Peter Jansen writes:
> Have you tried Customize Layout... in the Desktop context menu, or Alt+D, E?

These menu entries are not available with the widgets locked or to
whatever setting that got translated with the Plasma update.

Unlocking via the console gets that back, but the shortcuts don't work
anyway since Alt+D doesn't wait for more input and just fires up the
"Desktop Containment Settings".


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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

ASSI
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Wolfgang Bauer writes:
> That's a problem that already is fixed (after the 5.18.0 release), but
> apparently it didn't make to Tumbleweed yet...
>
> https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/774303

Why would anyone remove the option to lock and unlock the widgets from
the GUI?


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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

Wolfgang Bauer
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2020, 22:39:56 schrieb Achim Gratz:
> Wolfgang Bauer writes:
> > That's a problem that already is fixed (after the 5.18.0 release), but
> > apparently it didn't make to Tumbleweed yet...
> >
> > https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/774303
>
> Why would anyone remove the option to lock and unlock the widgets from
> the GUI?
TBH, why would anyone add it in the first place?

Personally I never saw a use for that and didn't want it to be turned on on my
systems ever.
(mainly because I do want to be able to paste things to the desktop, e.g.)

But anyway, better ask the upstream developers that do change these things...
;-)

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Wolfgang

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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

Wolfgang Bauer
In reply to this post by ASSI
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2020, 22:26:43 schrieb Achim Gratz:
> Hans-Peter Jansen writes:
> > Have you tried Customize Layout... in the Desktop context menu, or Alt+D,
> > E?
> These menu entries are not available with the widgets locked or to
> whatever setting that got translated with the Plasma update.
>
> Unlocking via the console gets that back, but the shortcuts don't work
> anyway since Alt+D doesn't wait for more input and just fires up the
> "Desktop Containment Settings".
AFAIK, that's fixed as well meanwhile, after the 5.18.0 release.

Should be in Tumbleweed in a week or so...

Kind Regards,
Wolfgang

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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

Wolfgang Bauer
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2020, 23:16:58 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:

> Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2020, 22:26:43 schrieb Achim Gratz:
> > Hans-Peter Jansen writes:
> > > Have you tried Customize Layout... in the Desktop context menu, or
> > > Alt+D,
> > > E?
> >
> > These menu entries are not available with the widgets locked or to
> > whatever setting that got translated with the Plasma update.
> >
> > Unlocking via the console gets that back, but the shortcuts don't work
> > anyway since Alt+D doesn't wait for more input and just fires up the
> > "Desktop Containment Settings".
>
> AFAIK, that's fixed as well meanwhile, after the 5.18.0 release.
>
> Should be in Tumbleweed in a week or so...
>
PS: that's https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416695

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Wolfgang

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Re: Plasma 5.19 Digital Clock

Will Stephenson-2
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On 14/02/2020 23:12, Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
> Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2020, 22:39:56 schrieb Achim Gratz:
> TBH, why would anyone add it in the first place?
>
> Personally I never saw a use for that and didn't want it to be turned on on my
> systems ever.
> (mainly because I do want to be able to paste things to the desktop, e.g.)

There's a continuum from Power User<->Supervised user<->Kiosk user.

I guess you're at the left end of that spectrum, Kiosk users have the
config locked down at a file level since KDE 2 times (and the UI changes
to reflect that, but there is a use case in the middle for allowing
unauthenticated changes via the UI, but having a safety lock to prevent
unintentional changes.

Krita had a dockwindow UI lock and removed it lock a few releases ago
because they couldn't make it discoverable and were sick of bug reports,
and now Plasma has followed suit.  I used it for my kids, who manage to
unintentionally destroy their Krita UI with a clumsy tap about once per
session. It will remain to be seen whether they now start trashing their
desktop layout too (although I could still poke it locked with an env.sh
file...).

Will

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