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Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Frank Krüger
I have installed Leap 42.3 build 0277 via "zypper dup", with
multiversion.kernels and the kernel stable repo enabled.

Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard
kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries
to install the standard kernel again.

With leap 42.2 I have never experienced such an issue. What do I miss?

Regards, Frank
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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Neil Rickert
On 06/14/2017 03:19 PM, Frank Krüger wrote:
>
> Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard
> kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries
> to install the standard kernel again.

That's not quite right.

The previous kernel was actually "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2".  That was
replaced by "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3".

The new kernel is a recompile of the same kernel as before.  The two
cannot co-exist.  Both of them will have the kernel stored as
"/boot/kernel-default-4.4.69-2", and that would give a conflict.  So the
older kernel was actually removed by "zypper" during your update.  The
"purge-kernels" service did not have anything to do.

You are probably right, that you have not seen this happen with 42.2.
But we do often see it happen with Tumbleweed.  Once the final release
of 42.3 is out, you probably won't see this happen.  But the development
is being handled similarly to Tumbleweed, so these recompiles may occur
again during the development phase.

I hope that helps explain what you are seeing, and why it isn't a problem.

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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Frank Krüger
Am 15.06.2017 um 03:53 schrieb Neil Rickert:

> On 06/14/2017 03:19 PM, Frank Krüger wrote:
>>
>> Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard
>> kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries
>> to install the standard kernel again.
>
> That's not quite right.
>
> The previous kernel was actually "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2".  That was
> replaced by "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3"
I did not have kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2 installed before (see below)

> The new kernel is a recompile of the same kernel as before.  The two
> cannot co-exist.  Both of them will have the kernel stored as
> "/boot/kernel-default-4.4.69-2", and that would give a conflict.  So the
> older kernel was actually removed by "zypper" during your update.  The
> "purge-kernels" service did not have anything to do.
>
> You are probably right, that you have not seen this happen with 42.2.
> But we do often see it happen with Tumbleweed.  Once the final release
> of 42.3 is out, you probably won't see this happen.  But the development
> is being handled similarly to Tumbleweed, so these recompiles may occur
> again during the development phase.
>
> I hope that helps explain what you are seeing, and why it isn't a problem.
>

Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
the following (using kernel stable repo):

rpm -q kernel-default:
kernel-default-4.11.4-1.1.gcba98ee.x86_64
kernel-default-4.11.5-1.1.g8ffa6bb.x86_64

as expected, since I have multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running.

Applying "zypper dup" pulls in kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3, which will be
removed after a reboot with purge-kernels.service. This does not make
sense at all in my opinion.

Any idea?

Regards, Frank





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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Carlos E. R.-2
On 2017-06-15 09:10, Frank Krüger wrote:

>
> Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
> the following (using kernel stable repo):
>
> rpm -q kernel-default:
> kernel-default-4.11.4-1.1.gcba98ee.x86_64
> kernel-default-4.11.5-1.1.g8ffa6bb.x86_64
>
> as expected, since I have multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running.
>
> Applying "zypper dup" pulls in kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3,
dependencies, surely.


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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink
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Op donderdag 15 juni 2017 09:10:42 CEST schreef Frank Krüger:

> Am 15.06.2017 um 03:53 schrieb Neil Rickert:
> > On 06/14/2017 03:19 PM, Frank Krüger wrote:
> >> Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard
> >> kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries
> >> to install the standard kernel again.
> >
> > That's not quite right.
> >
> > The previous kernel was actually "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2".  That was
> > replaced by "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3"
>
> I did not have kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2 installed before (see below)
>
> > The new kernel is a recompile of the same kernel as before.  The two
> > cannot co-exist.  Both of them will have the kernel stored as
> > "/boot/kernel-default-4.4.69-2", and that would give a conflict.  So the
> > older kernel was actually removed by "zypper" during your update.  The
> > "purge-kernels" service did not have anything to do.
> >
> > You are probably right, that you have not seen this happen with 42.2.
> > But we do often see it happen with Tumbleweed.  Once the final release
> > of 42.3 is out, you probably won't see this happen.  But the development
> > is being handled similarly to Tumbleweed, so these recompiles may occur
> > again during the development phase.
> >
> > I hope that helps explain what you are seeing, and why it isn't a problem.
>
> Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
> the following (using kernel stable repo):
>
> rpm -q kernel-default:
> kernel-default-4.11.4-1.1.gcba98ee.x86_64
> kernel-default-4.11.5-1.1.g8ffa6bb.x86_64
>
> as expected, since I have multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running.
>
> Applying "zypper dup" pulls in kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3, which will be
> removed after a reboot with purge-kernels.service. This does not make
> sense at all in my opinion.
>
> Any idea?
>
> Regards, Frank

That's because you haven't done a vendor switch to the kernel:stable repo
a 'zypper dup --from "YourKernelRepo" ' should fix that AFAIK. After doing this
zypper will know that kernel-default should come from the Kernel:Stable repo
and not install the distribution one.


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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Frank Krüger
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Am 15.06.2017 um 11:50 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:

> Am 15.06.2017 um 03:53 schrieb Neil Rickert:
>> On 06/14/2017 03:19 PM, Frank Krüger wrote:
>>>
>>> Rebooting and applying the purge-kernels service removes the standard
>>> kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3 as expected. However, using "zypper dup" tries
>>> to install the standard kernel again.
>>
>> That's not quite right.
>>
>> The previous kernel was actually "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2".  That was
>> replaced by "kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3"
> I did not have kernel-default-4.4.69-2.2 installed before (see below)
>
>> The new kernel is a recompile of the same kernel as before.  The two
>> cannot co-exist.  Both of them will have the kernel stored as
>> "/boot/kernel-default-4.4.69-2", and that would give a conflict.  So the
>> older kernel was actually removed by "zypper" during your update.  The
>> "purge-kernels" service did not have anything to do.
>>
>> You are probably right, that you have not seen this happen with 42.2.
>> But we do often see it happen with Tumbleweed.  Once the final release
>> of 42.3 is out, you probably won't see this happen.  But the development
>> is being handled similarly to Tumbleweed, so these recompiles may occur
>> again during the development phase.
>>
>> I hope that helps explain what you are seeing, and why it isn't a problem.
>>
>
> Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
> the following (using kernel stable repo):
>
> rpm -q kernel-default:
> kernel-default-4.11.4-1.1.gcba98ee.x86_64
> kernel-default-4.11.5-1.1.g8ffa6bb.x86_64
>
> as expected, since I have multiversion.kernels = latest,latest-1,running.
>
> Applying "zypper dup" pulls in kernel-default-4.4.69-2.3, which will be
> removed after a reboot with purge-kernels.service. This does not make
> sense at all in my opinion.
>
> That's because you haven't done a vendor switch to the kernel:stable repo
> a " ' should fix that AFAIK. After doing this
> zypper will know that kernel-default should come from the Kernel:Stable repo
> and not install the distribution one.

Using 'zypper dup --from "Kernel Stable Standard Repo"', as you
suggested, did not fix the "problem". Thanks anyway.

Regards, Frank

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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Andreas Schwab-2
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On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
> the following (using kernel stable repo):

Do you have that repo enabled?

Andreas.

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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Frank Krüger
Am 19.06.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Schwab:
> On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
>> the following (using kernel stable repo):
>
> Do you have that repo enabled?
>
> Andreas.
>

Yes, I have enabled
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard,
besides the 42.3 oss/non-oss repos, with same priority.

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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink
Op maandag 19 juni 2017 20:01:45 CEST schreef Frank Krüger:

> Am 19.06.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Schwab:
> > On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
> >
> >> the following (using kernel stable repo):
> > Do you have that repo enabled?
> >
> > Andreas.
>
> Yes, I have enabled
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard,
> besides the 42.3 oss/non-oss repos, with same priority.
>
> Regards, Frank

Did you do a 'zypper dup' from that repo?

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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Frank Krüger
Am 19.06.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:

> Op maandag 19 juni 2017 20:01:45 CEST schreef Frank Krüger:
>> Am 19.06.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Schwab:
>>> On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
>>>
>>>> the following (using kernel stable repo):
>>> Do you have that repo enabled?
>>>
>>> Andreas.
>>
>> Yes, I have enabled
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard,
>> besides the 42.3 oss/non-oss repos, with same priority.
>>
>> Regards, Frank
>
> Did you do a 'zypper dup' from that repo?
>
Yes, I did.
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Re: Leap 42.3 Build 0277 and multiversion.kernels

Frank Krüger
Am 19.06.2017 um 23:26 schrieb Frank Krüger:

> Am 19.06.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:
>> Op maandag 19 juni 2017 20:01:45 CEST schreef Frank Krüger:
>>> Am 19.06.2017 um 09:08 schrieb Andreas Schwab:
>>>> On Jun 15 2017, Frank Krüger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you for your explanation.  The  issue I experience, however, is
>>>>
>>>>> the following (using kernel stable repo):
>>>> Do you have that repo enabled?
>>>>
>>>> Andreas.
>>>
>>> Yes, I have enabled
>>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard,
>>> besides the 42.3 oss/non-oss repos, with same priority.
>>>
>>> Regards, Frank
>>
>> Did you do a 'zypper dup' from that repo?
>>
> Yes, I did.
>
FYI, tabooing drm-kmp-default solved my issue.
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