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C-29
I've been testing Beta 1, and it seems that this KDE4 bug is still
haunting the KDE desktop: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469

It is not a show-stopper, but... it is really annoying.  I haven't
seen anyone complaining about it on Factory though (although I may
have missed it)... it's been around (for me at least) since KDE4.7.0.

There seems to be no movement on getting it fixed from the upstream
KDE side (if the bug comments are to be believed).  Is there anything
"we" can do to correct it?  Is it worth opening an openSUSE bug
against it? (I'm guessing not, but worth asking)

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

jdd@dodin.org
Le 02/10/2011 09:18, C a écrit :

> I've been testing Beta 1, and it seems that this KDE4 bug is still
> haunting the KDE desktop: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
>
> It is not a show-stopper, but... it is really annoying.  I haven't
> seen anyone complaining about it on Factory though (although I may
> have missed it)... it's been around (for me at least) since KDE4.7.0.
>
> There seems to be no movement on getting it fixed from the upstream
> KDE side (if the bug comments are to be believed).  Is there anything
> "we" can do to correct it?  Is it worth opening an openSUSE bug
> against it? (I'm guessing not, but worth asking)
>
> C.
same thing here, and I have a bug open for a problem that may be
related (or not :-()

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720240

jdd

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

C-29
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 09:32, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le 02/10/2011 09:18, C a écrit :
>>
>> I've been testing Beta 1, and it seems that this KDE4 bug is still
>> haunting the KDE desktop: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
>>
>> It is not a show-stopper, but... it is really annoying.  I haven't
>> seen anyone complaining about it on Factory though (although I may
>> have missed it)... it's been around (for me at least) since KDE4.7.0.
>>
>> There seems to be no movement on getting it fixed from the upstream
>> KDE side (if the bug comments are to be believed).  Is there anything
>> "we" can do to correct it?  Is it worth opening an openSUSE bug
>> against it? (I'm guessing not, but worth asking)
>>
>> C.
>
> same thing here, and I have a bug open for a problem that may be related (or
> not :-()
>
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720240

Nope, that's not the same issue.  That's one I see in Beta 1 as
well... double application launcher icons for Firefox and Dolphin.
You can remove them but they are added back in on restart/login.

The issue with the "ghost" applications basically looks like a running
application in the taskbar that remains behind after you exist the
application.  You cannot interact with this application button since
the application it's representing is no longer running.

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

Basil Chupin-2
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On 02/10/11 18:32, jdd wrote:

> Le 02/10/2011 09:18, C a écrit :
>> I've been testing Beta 1, and it seems that this KDE4 bug is still
>> haunting the KDE desktop: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
>>
>> It is not a show-stopper, but... it is really annoying.  I haven't
>> seen anyone complaining about it on Factory though (although I may
>> have missed it)... it's been around (for me at least) since KDE4.7.0.
>>
>> There seems to be no movement on getting it fixed from the upstream
>> KDE side (if the bug comments are to be believed).  Is there anything
>> "we" can do to correct it?  Is it worth opening an openSUSE bug
>> against it? (I'm guessing not, but worth asking)
>>
>> C.
> same thing here, and I have a bug open for a problem that may be
> related (or not :-()
>
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720240

Forgive me for asking, but what does "bugzilla.novell.com" have anything
to do with openSUSE anymore?

Novell is no more. Gone. Poof!

Why should anyone report bugs to novell when opensuse is now a separate
entity?

BC

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

Sven Burmeister
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Am Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2011, 09:52:17 schrieb C:
> > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720240
>
> Nope, that's not the same issue.  That's one I see in Beta 1 as
> well... double application launcher icons for Firefox and Dolphin.
> You can remove them but they are added back in on restart/login.

These are automatically added for "default applications" which you can set in
KDE's systemsettings. However when I removed the task-bar and re-added it they
did not appear anymore. Might be a bug though.

> The issue with the "ghost" applications basically looks like a running
> application in the taskbar that remains behind after you exist the
> application.  You cannot interact with this application button since
> the application it's representing is no longer running.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278891

There is another patch that is worth pulling into 4.7.2 in case the fix really
got removed due to personal problems a dev has with a user.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

Kim Leyendecker
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Am 02.10.2011 10:26, schrieb Basil Chupin:
> Forgive me for asking, but what does "bugzilla.novell.com" have anything
> to do with openSUSE anymore?

Yes, I´ve heard about setting up something at bugzilla.suse.com but at
the moment, Novell´s bugzilla is still "our" bugzilla too.

>
> Novell is no more. Gone. Poof!
>
> Why should anyone report bugs to novell when opensuse is now a separate
> entity?

Because our beloved SUSE developers are still active in Novell´s
bugzilla? ;-)

>
> BC

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

Basil Chupin-2
On 02/10/11 19:55, Kim Leyendecker wrote:

> Am 02.10.2011 10:26, schrieb Basil Chupin:
>> Forgive me for asking, but what does "bugzilla.novell.com" have anything
>> to do with openSUSE anymore?
>
> Yes, I´ve heard about setting up something at bugzilla.suse.com but at
> the moment, Novell´s bugzilla is still "our" bugzilla too.
>
>>
>> Novell is no more. Gone. Poof!
>>
>> Why should anyone report bugs to novell when opensuse is now a separate
>> entity?
>
> Because our beloved SUSE developers are still active in Novell´s
> bugzilla? ;-)
>
>>
>> BC
>
> Kim

OK, but how many years does it take to make the proper switch?

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

C-29
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On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:37, Sven Burmeister <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Am Sonntag, 2. Oktober 2011, 09:52:17 schrieb C:
>> > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720240
>>
>> Nope, that's not the same issue.  That's one I see in Beta 1 as
>> well... double application launcher icons for Firefox and Dolphin.
>> You can remove them but they are added back in on restart/login.
>
> These are automatically added for "default applications" which you can set in
> KDE's systemsettings. However when I removed the task-bar and re-added it they
> did not appear anymore. Might be a bug though.
>
>> The issue with the "ghost" applications basically looks like a running
>> application in the taskbar that remains behind after you exist the
>> application.  You cannot interact with this application button since
>> the application it's representing is no longer running.
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278891
>
> There is another patch that is worth pulling into 4.7.2 in case the fix really
> got removed due to personal problems a dev has with a user.
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414

It would be really good for openSUSE if we were able to pull these
patches into the 12.1 release.

Regarding the bugs.kde.org reports... it really is shameful that
certain prima-donna developers take such a snarky attitude with the
KDE users who are frustrated by the apparent lack of response on a bug
report.

Oh well... we can do better :-)  If the patches are released with
12.1, we will have a KDE 4.7.1 that is better than everyone elses.
It's a win-win.

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

Lars Müller
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On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 07:49:44PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
[ 8< ]
> OK, but how many years does it take to make the proper switch?

Wow, we have one willing to work on the setup of a suse.com bugzilla
including the migration of the old bugs, and most important maintaining
it the next five, ten, or even more years!

I always welcome such a strong commitment to the project!

Sorry kids, what's wrong with bugzilla.novell.com?  Despite the fact
that it uses the novell.com domain name?

A bug tracker, is a bug tracker is a bug tracker.

And in this case it's all Open Source Software.  From the operating
system, to the web server, and the tracker.

A new system very likely would run in the same datacenter inside of the
same AS.

What are the benefits beside one person less complaining?

Compared to the tradeoff that we have to maintain two bug reporting
systems?

Has any of the whining ever had to maintain systems?  In particular a
bug tracker?  Ever tried to get something like the beloved "needinfo by"
feature upstream?

Sorry to hit with my fist in your Sunday cream cake.  But you better get
your asbestos protected cloth on before you try to pie on this piece of
grass.

Yes, there is one point which needs to be addressed.  The failing
authentication from time to time.  That's really annoying.  But that
wouldn't very, very likely be different for a bugzilla operated under
the suse.com domain.

I'm happy to focus on real issues.

Thanks.

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

Kim Leyendecker
Am 02.10.2011 14:50, schrieb Lars Müller:

> On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 07:49:44PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
> [ 8<  ]
>> >  OK, but how many years does it take to make the proper switch?
> Wow, we have one willing to work on the setup of a suse.com bugzilla
> including the migration of the old bugs, and most important maintaining
> it the next five, ten, or even more years!
>
> I always welcome such a strong commitment to the project!
>
> Sorry kids, what's wrong with bugzilla.novell.com?  Despite the fact
> that it uses the novell.com domain name?

nothing.

>
> A bug tracker, is a bug tracker is a bug tracker.
>
> And in this case it's all Open Source Software.  From the operating
> system, to the web server, and the tracker.
>
> A new system very likely would run in the same datacenter inside of the
> same AS.
>
> What are the benefits beside one person less complaining?
>
> Compared to the tradeoff that we have to maintain two bug reporting
> systems?
>
> Has any of the whining ever had to maintain systems?  In particular a
> bug tracker?  Ever tried to get something like the beloved "needinfo by"
> feature upstream?

Lars, no one´s complaining about the current situation. It was just a
normal question because the typical marketing echo from the SUSE/Novell
guys is that they tell us that SUSE and Novell are divorced and the both
companies are going there one ways now.

So, the question was legitimate.

>
> Sorry to hit with my fist in your Sunday cream cake.  But you better get
> your asbestos protected cloth on before you try to pie on this piece of
> grass.
>
> Yes, there is one point which needs to be addressed.  The failing
> authentication from time to time.  That's really annoying.  But that
> wouldn't very, very likely be different for a bugzilla operated under
> the suse.com domain.
>
> I'm happy to focus on real issues.
>

I guess we´re all happy to focus on real issues, no doubt about it.
However, it was just a question regarding our "corporate identity" if
you want to call it that way...

Kim

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

Bugzilla from markus.s@kdemail.net
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On Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011 09:18:33 C wrote:

> There seems to be no movement on getting it fixed from the upstream
> KDE side (if the bug comments are to be believed).  Is there anything
> "we" can do to correct it?  Is it worth opening an openSUSE bug
> against it? (I'm guessing not, but worth asking)

Well, actually upstream is moving. All Plasma widgets are currently in the process of
being completely rewritten using QML – including the taskbar. See
https://viranchmehta.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/

So unless bugs are huge showstoppers, I don't think it's worth to fix old code. Instead if
one is able to help, better help Viranch to make the QML taskbar ready for 4.8.
In the meantime there are alternative taskbars for Plasma. The one I use is Fancy Tasks:
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fancy+Tasks?content=99737
It's in openSUSE's repos. I have configured it to be almost exactly like the default
taskbar with the single exception that Fancy Tasks allows disabling window switching via
mouse wheel.

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Bugzilla from markus.s@kdemail.net
Correction: I use Smooth Tasks
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586

On Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011 15:35:04 Markus Slopianka wrote:
> The one I use is Fancy Tasks:
> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fancy+Tasks?content=99737
> It's in openSUSE's repos. I have configured it to be almost exactly like
> the default taskbar with the single exception that Fancy Tasks allows
> disabling window switching via mouse wheel.
>
> Markus
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C-29
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On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 15:35, Markus Slopianka <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011 09:18:33 C wrote:
>
>> There seems to be no movement on getting it fixed from the upstream
>> KDE side (if the bug comments are to be believed).  Is there anything
>> "we" can do to correct it?  Is it worth opening an openSUSE bug
>> against it? (I'm guessing not, but worth asking)
>
> Well, actually upstream is moving. All Plasma widgets are currently in the process of
> being completely rewritten using QML – including the taskbar. See
> https://viranchmehta.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/

Nice.  There is a lot happening in the KDE development world :-) The
improvements we are seeing on the user-land side of things are really
noticeable lately.


> So unless bugs are huge showstoppers, I don't think it's worth to fix old code.

Fair enough.  It's frustrating to see openSUSE 12.1 being released
almost the same time as the 4.8 betas (sometime in November).. knowing
the fixes are in the 4.8 branch, and seeing the very obvious visual
bugs in the 4.7 release.  This particular bug is ugly and annoying -
and it really is one that new users pick up on right away.


> In the meantime there are alternative taskbars for Plasma. The one I use is Fancy Tasks:
> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fancy+Tasks?content=99737
> It's in openSUSE's repos. I have configured it to be almost exactly like the default
> taskbar with the single exception that Fancy Tasks allows disabling window switching via
> mouse wheel.

OK, that's nice and all... but it's not what we are apparently
shipping.  We are shipping a KDE4 with a very visible known bug that
most users will encounter in their day to day use.  This is not
something that affects only a small group of users.

My question is, what can we do to fix it?  Is there something that one
of the openSUSE KDE wizards can patch on the 4.7 release we will ship?
 It's not a show stopper, but it's ugly and right there in front of
every user who will try out KDE4 on 12.1.  I'm sure that the reviewers
will pick up on it right away.  Something small like this can make our
12.1 release look rather sloppy :-(

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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

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Le 02/10/2011 10:49, Basil Chupin a écrit :


> OK, but how many years does it take to make the proper switch?

the ex-novell suse people are now "Suse", and the desk is still in
nurenberg and you can still see Novell raound, because nobydy care to
change things only decorative

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Bruno Friedmann-2
On 10/02/2011 03:49 PM, jdd wrote:
> Le 02/10/2011 10:49, Basil Chupin a écrit :
>
>
>> OK, but how many years does it take to make the proper switch?
>
> the ex-novell suse people are now "Suse", and the desk is still in nurenberg and you can still see Novell raound, because nobydy
> care to change things only decorative
>
> jdd

And perharps just because all TM are registered & valid TM of Novell :-)


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Kim Leyendecker
Am 02.10.2011 16:55, schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
> And perharps just because all TM are registered&  valid TM of Novell:-)

Sure? I thought trademarks and other copyright-related stuff now belongs
to Attachmate?

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On Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011 15:45:55 C wrote:

> Fair enough.  It's frustrating to see openSUSE 12.1 being released
> almost the same time as the 4.8 betas (sometime in November).. knowing
> the fixes are in the 4.8 branch

Not sure if the new taskbar will make it into KR 4.8. A rewrite like this will undoubtly
carry its own bugs.
AFAIK the QML versions have to be at least as good as the old pure C++ ones in order to
get accepted.


> My question is, what can we do to fix it?

Ship Smooth Tasks by default if the bug is really that bad.
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C-29
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 17:15, Markus Slopianka <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Not sure if the new taskbar will make it into KR 4.8. A rewrite like this will undoubtly
> carry its own bugs.
> AFAIK the QML versions have to be at least as good as the old pure C++ ones in order to
> get accepted.

I'm sure us users will dig up a few bugs that will make the developers
say "Why in the world would you click like that?" :-)


>> My question is, what can we do to fix it?
>
> Ship Smooth Tasks by default if the bug is really that bad.

Is it bad? Well, it doesn't stop me from using KDE4 in any way... but
visually it's pretty obvious.  It's something that stands out when
you're using KDE.  It would be nice if there was something we could do
about it before we ship 12.1 - I wish I knew enough C++ to produce a
patch, but unfortunately I'm better at being annoying on the mailing
list than I am at coding :-)


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On Sunday, October 02, 2011 03:45:55 PM C wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 15:35, Markus Slopianka <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On Sonntag 02 Oktober 2011 09:18:33 C wrote:
> >> There seems to be no movement on getting it fixed from the upstream
> >> KDE side (if the bug comments are to be believed).  Is there anything
> >> "we" can do to correct it?  Is it worth opening an openSUSE bug
> >> against it? (I'm guessing not, but worth asking)
> >
> > Well, actually upstream is moving. All Plasma widgets are currently in
> > the process of being completely rewritten using QML – including the
> > taskbar. See https://viranchmehta.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/
>
> Nice.  There is a lot happening in the KDE development world :-) The
> improvements we are seeing on the user-land side of things are really
> noticeable lately.
>
> > So unless bugs are huge showstoppers, I don't think it's worth to fix
> > old code.
> Fair enough.  It's frustrating to see openSUSE 12.1 being released
> almost the same time as the 4.8 betas (sometime in November).. knowing
> the fixes are in the 4.8 branch, and seeing the very obvious visual
> bugs in the 4.7 release.  This particular bug is ugly and annoying -
> and it really is one that new users pick up on right away.
>
> > In the meantime there are alternative taskbars for Plasma. The one I use
> > is Fancy Tasks:
> > http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fancy+Tasks?content=99737
> > It's in openSUSE's repos. I have configured it to be almost exactly like
> > the default taskbar with the single exception that Fancy Tasks allows
> > disabling window switching via mouse wheel.
>
> OK, that's nice and all... but it's not what we are apparently
> shipping.  We are shipping a KDE4 with a very visible known bug that
> most users will encounter in their day to day use.  This is not
> something that affects only a small group of users.
>
> My question is, what can we do to fix it?  Is there something that one
> of the openSUSE KDE wizards can patch on the 4.7 release we will ship?
>  It's not a show stopper, but it's ugly and right there in front of
> every user who will try out KDE4 on 12.1.  I'm sure that the reviewers
> will pick up on it right away.  Something small like this can make our
> 12.1 release look rather sloppy :-(
>
> C.
I have to agree with your comment about sloppy software. I can name at least a
dozen software and hardware companies that no longer exixt because they went
by rhe schedule instead of is the product ready.

I realize this is not a company enviroment but we are still tring to convert
people from MS to Linux (specifically openSUSE in our case) and these dual
Icons are not going to help.

I am not a software type, more hardware oriented but I know debugging of the
software is a major challenge and thats why we used to teacher our Field
Engineers how to track down software bugs (inthe labs) before systems shipped.

Hopefully this dual Icon issue will be solved before 12.1 ships.
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Re: KDE4.7.1 in oS 12.1 Beta 1 - Apps remaining on taskbar after closing

jdd@dodin.org
Le 02/10/2011 17:39, upscope a écrit :

> Hopefully this dual Icon issue will be solved before 12.1 ships.

is that so hard to solve? was not present previously!

jdd
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