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Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Bugzilla from swoop@swoop.dk
Hi all

I'm trying to switch from Ubuntu to openSUSE 11.2 and really like the
feeling of the system and setup.

My biggest problem is with my wireless network. It doesn't connect to
my wireless router using WPA-PSK security. There isn't shown any errors
to me on the desktop.

The netcard is:
# WLan: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AGN
# Lan: Realtek RTL8111/8168 Gigabit Ethernet

lspci shows:
06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)

There isn't any problem to use regular ethernet or none encrypted
wireless network. Do I need to activate support for WPA-PSK in a
special way? On Ubunutu I used GNOME so I'm not so familar with KDE yet.

Thanks a lot in advance.


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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

ianseeks
On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 13:51:12 Allan Dreyer Andersen wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'm trying to switch from Ubuntu to openSUSE 11.2 and really like the
> feeling of the system and setup.
>
> My biggest problem is with my wireless network. It doesn't connect to
> my wireless router using WPA-PSK security. There isn't shown any errors
> to me on the desktop.
>
> The netcard is:
> # WLan: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AGN
> # Lan: Realtek RTL8111/8168 Gigabit Ethernet
>
> lspci shows:
> 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
> AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
>
> There isn't any problem to use regular ethernet or none encrypted
> wireless network. Do I need to activate support for WPA-PSK in a
> special way? On Ubunutu I used GNOME so I'm not so familar with KDE yet.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance.
>
I've found a similar problem with Wireless connection.  It does not assign an
IP address to "wlan0" although KNetworkManager shows connection to the router.  
If i connect with cable then "eth0" gets an IP address fine.

regards

Ian
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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Will Stephenson-2
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On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:25:40 ianseeks wrote:

> On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 13:51:12 Allan Dreyer Andersen wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > I'm trying to switch from Ubuntu to openSUSE 11.2 and really like the
> > feeling of the system and setup.
> >
> > My biggest problem is with my wireless network. It doesn't connect to
> > my wireless router using WPA-PSK security. There isn't shown any errors
> > to me on the desktop.
> >
> > The netcard is:
> > # WLan: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AGN
> > # Lan: Realtek RTL8111/8168 Gigabit Ethernet
> >
> > lspci shows:
> > 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
> > AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
> > 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
> >
> > There isn't any problem to use regular ethernet or none encrypted
> > wireless network. Do I need to activate support for WPA-PSK in a
> > special way? On Ubunutu I used GNOME so I'm not so familar with KDE yet.
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance.
>
> I've found a similar problem with Wireless connection.  It does not assign
>  an IP address to "wlan0" although KNetworkManager shows connection to the
>  router. If i connect with cable then "eth0" gets an IP address fine.
>

It's this bug:
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553908

Fix available as described at :
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4112
and will soon be available as an online update.  

If you don't want to test the update out, the workaround is to edit your
wireless connection, go to IP settings, change the view to Routing, clear both
checkboxes, and log out and back in again.

Let me know how you get on.


Will


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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

ianseeks
On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 19:41:48 Will Stephenson wrote:

> On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:25:40 ianseeks wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 13:51:12 Allan Dreyer Andersen wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > I'm trying to switch from Ubuntu to openSUSE 11.2 and really like the
> > > feeling of the system and setup.
> > >
> > > My biggest problem is with my wireless network. It doesn't connect to
> > > my wireless router using WPA-PSK security. There isn't shown any errors
> > > to me on the desktop.
> > >
> > > The netcard is:
> > > # WLan: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AGN
> > > # Lan: Realtek RTL8111/8168 Gigabit Ethernet
> > >
> > > lspci shows:
> > > 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
> > > AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
> > > 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > > RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
> > >
> > > There isn't any problem to use regular ethernet or none encrypted
> > > wireless network. Do I need to activate support for WPA-PSK in a
> > > special way? On Ubunutu I used GNOME so I'm not so familar with KDE
> > > yet.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot in advance.
> >
> > I've found a similar problem with Wireless connection.  It does not
> > assign an IP address to "wlan0" although KNetworkManager shows connection
> > to the router. If i connect with cable then "eth0" gets an IP address
> > fine.
>
> It's this bug:
> http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553908
>
> Fix available as described at :
> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4112
> and will soon be available as an online update.
>
> If you don't want to test the update out, the workaround is to edit your
> wireless connection, go to IP settings, change the view to Routing, clear
>  both checkboxes, and log out and back in again.
>
> Let me know how you get on.
>
>
> Will
>
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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Fred A. Miller
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On 12/02/2009 02:41 PM, Will Stephenson wrote:

> On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:25:40 ianseeks wrote:
>  
>> On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 13:51:12 Allan Dreyer Andersen wrote:
>>    
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm trying to switch from Ubuntu to openSUSE 11.2 and really like the
>>> feeling of the system and setup.
>>>
>>> My biggest problem is with my wireless network. It doesn't connect to
>>> my wireless router using WPA-PSK security. There isn't shown any errors
>>> to me on the desktop.
>>>
>>> The netcard is:
>>> # WLan: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AGN
>>> # Lan: Realtek RTL8111/8168 Gigabit Ethernet
>>>
>>> lspci shows:
>>> 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
>>> AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
>>> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>>> RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
>>>
>>> There isn't any problem to use regular ethernet or none encrypted
>>> wireless network. Do I need to activate support for WPA-PSK in a
>>> special way? On Ubunutu I used GNOME so I'm not so familar with KDE yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot in advance.
>>>      
>> I've found a similar problem with Wireless connection.  It does not assign
>>  an IP address to "wlan0" although KNetworkManager shows connection to the
>>  router. If i connect with cable then "eth0" gets an IP address fine.
>>
>>    
> It's this bug:
> http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553908
>
> Fix available as described at :
> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4112
> and will soon be available as an online update.  
>
> If you don't want to test the update out, the workaround is to edit your
> wireless connection, go to IP settings, change the view to Routing, clear both
> checkboxes, and log out and back in again.
>
> Let me know how you get on.
>
>  

Thanks, Will!! The work around did the trick! Now, I'll see how long I
can stay connected. One of the problems we've had in the past in
KNetworkmanager hasn't wanted to stay connected.

Thanks!

Fred

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

ianseeks
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On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 19:41:48 Will Stephenson wrote:

> On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:25:40 ianseeks wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 13:51:12 Allan Dreyer Andersen wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > I'm trying to switch from Ubuntu to openSUSE 11.2 and really like the
> > > feeling of the system and setup.
> > >
> > > My biggest problem is with my wireless network. It doesn't connect to
> > > my wireless router using WPA-PSK security. There isn't shown any errors
> > > to me on the desktop.
> > >
> > > The netcard is:
> > > # WLan: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AGN
> > > # Lan: Realtek RTL8111/8168 Gigabit Ethernet
> > >
> > > lspci shows:
> > > 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
> > > AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
> > > 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > > RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
> > >
> > > There isn't any problem to use regular ethernet or none encrypted
> > > wireless network. Do I need to activate support for WPA-PSK in a
> > > special way? On Ubunutu I used GNOME so I'm not so familar with KDE
> > > yet.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot in advance.
> >
> > I've found a similar problem with Wireless connection.  It does not
> > assign an IP address to "wlan0" although KNetworkManager shows connection
> > to the router. If i connect with cable then "eth0" gets an IP address
> > fine.
>
> It's this bug:
> http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553908
>
> Fix available as described at :
> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4112
> and will soon be available as an online update.
>
> If you don't want to test the update out, the workaround is to edit your
> wireless connection, go to IP settings, change the view to Routing, clear
>  both checkboxes, and log out and back in again.
>
> Let me know how you get on.
>
>
> Will
>
I've only used KNetworkManager very briefly in 11.2, i still haven't had
chance to try your workaround. One thing about the "eth0" getting an IP
address was that it was an IPV6 address, can you use KNetworkManager to make a
choice between IPv4 and IPv6 or do you have to de-install IPv6 in Yast?  I
prefer IPv4 at the moment as I've not really spent any time learning IPv6 yet
and i don't want a mixed "IP" network.

regards

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Bugzilla from swoop@swoop.dk
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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:06:04 -0500
> > It's this bug:
> > http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553908
> >
> > Fix available as described at :
> > http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4112
> > and will soon be available as an online update.  
> >
 
> Thanks, Will!! The work around did the trick! Now, I'll see how long I
> can stay connected. One of the problems we've had in the past in
> KNetworkmanager hasn't wanted to stay connected.

Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

It didn't work for me. I just got the update this morning, installed,
rebooted and the exact same happens for me.

I get asked to enter my password once me, I press OK, KNetworkmanager
tries to connect and gives up and give me the message unavailable.


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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Bugzilla from swoop@swoop.dk
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:20:32 +0100
Allan Dreyer Andersen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It didn't work for me. I just got the update this morning, installed,
> rebooted and the exact same happens for me.
>
> I get asked to enter my password once me, I press OK, KNetworkmanager
> tries to connect and gives up and give me the message unavailable.

Oh how clumbsy I can be ... the bugfix solved the problem and
KNetworkmanager connects as it should.

Thanks guys!


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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

kanenas
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On Thursday 03 December 2009 12:20:32 am Allan Dreyer Andersen wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:06:04 -0500
>
> > > It's this bug:
> > > http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553908
> > >
> > > Fix available as described at :
> > > http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4112
> > > and will soon be available as an online update.
> >
> > Thanks, Will!! The work around did the trick! Now, I'll see how long I
> > can stay connected. One of the problems we've had in the past in
> > KNetworkmanager hasn't wanted to stay connected.
>
> Thanks for the replies and suggestions.
>
> It didn't work for me. I just got the update this morning, installed,
> rebooted and the exact same happens for me.
>
> I get asked to enter my password once me, I press OK, KNetworkmanager
> tries to connect and gives up and give me the message unavailable.
>
>
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> Allan Dreyer Andersen

Try  "wicd" if you don't mind a "feature" making access passwords easily
readable. connection - wise, it seems far superior to knetworkmanager, at
least that's the case on my dell vostro and suse 11.1 -x86-64.
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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Will Stephenson-2
On Thursday 03 December 2009 12:47:59 [hidden email] wrote:
> Try  "wicd" if you don't mind a "feature" making access passwords easily
> readable.

Sorry, I don't understand this.  What is in wicd that is missing in
knetworkmanager?

> connection- wise, it seems far superior to knetworkmanager, at
> least that's the case on my dell vostro and suse 11.1 -x86-64.

Which knetworkmanager are you comparing here, the KDE 3 version in 11.1, or
the KDE 4 version in 11.2?

Generally, wicd is interesting, and eventually the KDE Network Management
stack will be a client for wicd as well as for NetworkManager.  Dario Freddi,
an upstream KDE developer is working on a backend.

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Will Stephenson-2
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On Thursday 03 December 2009 08:43:13 ianseeks wrote:
> I've only used KNetworkManager very briefly in 11.2, i still haven't had
> chance to try your workaround. One thing about the "eth0" getting an IP
> address was that it was an IPV6 address, can you use KNetworkManager to
>  make a  choice between IPv4 and IPv6 or do you have to de-install IPv6 in
>  Yast?  I prefer IPv4 at the moment as I've not really spent any time
>  learning IPv6 yet and i don't want a mixed "IP" network.
>
At the moment KNM has no UI to configure IPv6 addresses, but it should just
take an IPv4 address over DHCP with the default settings.  I guess it depends
how your network is setup.  Disabling IPv6 would be a workaround if you never
get an IPv4 address, until I implement the IPv6 config UI.

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Fred A. Miller
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On 12/03/2009 12:06 AM, Fred A. Miller wrote:

> On 12/02/2009 02:41 PM, Will Stephenson wrote:
>  
>> On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:25:40 ianseeks wrote:
>>  
>>    
>>> On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 13:51:12 Allan Dreyer Andersen wrote:
>>>    
>>>      
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to switch from Ubuntu to openSUSE 11.2 and really like the
>>>> feeling of the system and setup.
>>>>
>>>> My biggest problem is with my wireless network. It doesn't connect to
>>>> my wireless router using WPA-PSK security. There isn't shown any errors
>>>> to me on the desktop.
>>>>
>>>> The netcard is:
>>>> # WLan: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AGN
>>>> # Lan: Realtek RTL8111/8168 Gigabit Ethernet
>>>>
>>>> lspci shows:
>>>> 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
>>>> AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
>>>> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>>>> RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
>>>>
>>>> There isn't any problem to use regular ethernet or none encrypted
>>>> wireless network. Do I need to activate support for WPA-PSK in a
>>>> special way? On Ubunutu I used GNOME so I'm not so familar with KDE yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot in advance.
>>>>      
>>>>        
>>> I've found a similar problem with Wireless connection.  It does not assign
>>>  an IP address to "wlan0" although KNetworkManager shows connection to the
>>>  router. If i connect with cable then "eth0" gets an IP address fine.
>>>
>>>    
>>>      
>> It's this bug:
>> http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553908
>>
>> Fix available as described at :
>> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4112
>> and will soon be available as an online update.  
>>
>> If you don't want to test the update out, the workaround is to edit your
>> wireless connection, go to IP settings, change the view to Routing, clear both
>> checkboxes, and log out and back in again.
>>
>> Let me know how you get on.
>>
>>  
>>    
> Thanks, Will!! The work around did the trick! Now, I'll see how long I
> can stay connected. One of the problems we've had in the past in
> KNetworkmanager hasn't wanted to stay connected.
>
>  

As a follow up, KNetworkmanager seems to be behaving much better than in
the past, in that it DOES stay connected. The only thing I've noticed,
is that it DOESN'T stay on the bar, so once you shutdown or reboot, it's
gone and has to be restarted. Korganizer won't stay on the bar at
all...once closed, it's gone, even though it's configured for the
reminder to be on the bar.

Fred

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

ianseeks
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On Thursday 03 Dec 2009 14:27:23 Will Stephenson wrote:

> On Thursday 03 December 2009 08:43:13 ianseeks wrote:
> > I've only used KNetworkManager very briefly in 11.2, i still haven't had
> > chance to try your workaround. One thing about the "eth0" getting an IP
> > address was that it was an IPV6 address, can you use KNetworkManager to
> >  make a  choice between IPv4 and IPv6 or do you have to de-install IPv6
> > in Yast?  I prefer IPv4 at the moment as I've not really spent any time
> > learning IPv6 yet and i don't want a mixed "IP" network.
>
> At the moment KNM has no UI to configure IPv6 addresses, but it should just
> take an IPv4 address over DHCP with the default settings.  I guess it
>  depends how your network is setup.  Disabling IPv6 would be a workaround
>  if you never get an IPv4 address, until I implement the IPv6 config UI.
>
> Will
>
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C-29
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> As a follow up, KNetworkmanager seems to be behaving much better than in
> the past, in that it DOES stay connected. The only thing I've noticed,
> is that it DOESN'T stay on the bar, so once you shutdown or reboot, it's
> gone and has to be restarted. Korganizer won't stay on the bar at
> all...once closed, it's gone, even though it's configured for the
> reminder to be on the bar.

I have the same issue on my desktop running KDE4.3.3.  KNetworkManager
always has to be manually restarted.  On my laptop though, also
running KDE4.3.3 (and now 4.3.4), KNetworkManager always shows up on
boot/login and I don't have to restart it... only happens on the
desktop machine.

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Will Stephenson-2
On Friday 04 December 2009 10:29:35 Clayton wrote:

> > As a follow up, KNetworkmanager seems to be behaving much better than in
> > the past, in that it DOES stay connected. The only thing I've noticed,
> > is that it DOESN'T stay on the bar, so once you shutdown or reboot, it's
> > gone and has to be restarted. Korganizer won't stay on the bar at
> > all...once closed, it's gone, even though it's configured for the
> > reminder to be on the bar.
>
> I have the same issue on my desktop running KDE4.3.3.  KNetworkManager
> always has to be manually restarted.  On my laptop though, also
> running KDE4.3.3 (and now 4.3.4), KNetworkManager always shows up on
> boot/login and I don't have to restart it... only happens on the
> desktop machine.

Ok, that's a problem.

2 things could be happening here:  

1) KNM is not autostarting on session start.  

2) KNM is in 'passive' mode and KDE 4.3 has a system tray that hides 'passive'
applets by default.  

Can you check this?

Diagnostics

1) * no 'knetworkmanager' process after logging in
   * no

[General]
Autostart=true

in $HOME/.kde4/share/config/networkmanagementrc (or Autostart=false there...)

2) knetworkmanager process running as your user after login, but no icon,
until you click the expand button (tiny triangle) on the system tray, or
change the tray's hiding settings.   Menu contains only 'NetworkManager is not
running' or similar.

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Fred A. Miller
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On 12/04/2009 04:29 AM, Clayton wrote:

>> As a follow up, KNetworkmanager seems to be behaving much better than in
>> the past, in that it DOES stay connected. The only thing I've noticed,
>> is that it DOESN'T stay on the bar, so once you shutdown or reboot, it's
>> gone and has to be restarted. Korganizer won't stay on the bar at
>> all...once closed, it's gone, even though it's configured for the
>> reminder to be on the bar.
>>    
> I have the same issue on my desktop running KDE4.3.3.  KNetworkManager
> always has to be manually restarted.  On my laptop though, also
> running KDE4.3.3 (and now 4.3.4), KNetworkManager always shows up on
> boot/login and I don't have to restart it... only happens on the
> desktop machine.
>
>  

Hehehehe......only on laptops have I seen it. But, I agree...looks like
a KDE "thing"
rather than an application thing.

Fred

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C-29
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> 1) * no 'knetworkmanager' process after logging in
>   * no
>
> [General]
> Autostart=true

It's "false" on the desktop and "true" on the laptop.

I have no idea why the difference... I haven't done anything to
configure either one.  I use KNetworkManager on the desktop to
simplify logging into my various VPNs.  On the laptop, it does the VPN
thing as well as WiFi setup/login.


> 2) knetworkmanager process running as your user after login, but no icon,
> until you click the expand button (tiny triangle) on the system tray, or
> change the tray's hiding settings.   Menu contains only 'NetworkManager is not
> running' or similar.

It's definitely not hidden.

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Fred A. Miller
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On 12/04/2009 07:22 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:

> On Friday 04 December 2009 10:29:35 Clayton wrote:
>  
>>> As a follow up, KNetworkmanager seems to be behaving much better than in
>>> the past, in that it DOES stay connected. The only thing I've noticed,
>>> is that it DOESN'T stay on the bar, so once you shutdown or reboot, it's
>>> gone and has to be restarted. Korganizer won't stay on the bar at
>>> all...once closed, it's gone, even though it's configured for the
>>> reminder to be on the bar.
>>>      
>> I have the same issue on my desktop running KDE4.3.3.  KNetworkManager
>> always has to be manually restarted.  On my laptop though, also
>> running KDE4.3.3 (and now 4.3.4), KNetworkManager always shows up on
>> boot/login and I don't have to restart it... only happens on the
>> desktop machine.
>>    
> Ok, that's a problem.
>
> 2 things could be happening here:  
>
> 1) KNM is not autostarting on session start.  
>
> 2) KNM is in 'passive' mode and KDE 4.3 has a system tray that hides 'passive'
> applets by default.  
>
> Can you check this?
>
> Diagnostics
>
> 1) * no 'knetworkmanager' process after logging in
>    * no
>
> [General]
> Autostart=true
>
> in $HOME/.kde4/share/config/networkmanagementrc (or Autostart=false there...)
>  

No.....show "true."
> 2) knetworkmanager process running as your user after login, but no icon,
> until you click the expand button (tiny triangle) on the system tray, or
> change the tray's hiding settings.   Menu contains only 'NetworkManager is not
> running' or similar.
>
> Will
>  

No.......it's not there......period.

Fred

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Re: Can't connect to WPA-PSK network

Will Stephenson-2
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On Saturday 05 December 2009 21:39:53 Clayton wrote:

> > 1) * no 'knetworkmanager' process after logging in
> >   * no
> >
> > [General]
> > Autostart=true
>
> It's "false" on the desktop and "true" on the laptop.
>
> I have no idea why the difference... I haven't done anything to
> configure either one.  I use KNetworkManager on the desktop to
> simplify logging into my various VPNs.  On the laptop, it does the VPN
> thing as well as WiFi setup/login.

/usr/share/kde4/env/knetworkmanager.default.sh runs on every user KDE4 login
and is supposed to rewrite the file, preventing KNM autostarting if it detects
that NM is not enabled on the system.  I guess it broke.  I'll look at it
later...

> > 2) knetworkmanager process running as your user after login, but no icon,
> > until you click the expand button (tiny triangle) on the system tray, or
> > change the tray's hiding settings.   Menu contains only 'NetworkManager
> > is not running' or similar.
>
> It's definitely not hidden.

Ok, thanks for checking thoroughly.

Will

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