Building against RHEL: What is it good for, if CentOS builds work and RHEL is missing al devel packages...

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Building against RHEL: What is it good for, if CentOS builds work and RHEL is missing al devel packages...

Johannes Kastl-2
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Hi everyone,

as I was trying around with builds for CentOS, I was naive enough to
think building for RHEL should work out of the box, as CentOS and
RHEL are (nearly) the same. Boy, was I wrong... ;-)

I found an older mail, saying that the RHEL devel packages can not
be imported on OBS. It seems this is still the case, which leads to
lots and lots of missing dependencies for the builds, which build
fine for CentOS.

So, my question is:

What is the RHEL build target good for? If the CentOS builds work
out of the box on a RHEL machine, it seems like a waste of build
time and space.

On the other hand, if I have to build all needed devel packages (and
the dependencies of these packages and the dependencies of the
dependencies...) just to achieve the same results as with CentOS, it
seems rather pointless to import RHEL at all.

What important point am I missing?

Johannes
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Re: Building against RHEL: What is it good for, if CentOS builds work and RHEL is missing al devel packages...

Johannes Kastl-2
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Am 19.12.15 schrieb Stanislav Baiduzhyi:

> Yup, got the same problem. The issue is, lots of devel packages
> for RHEL are coming in Supplementary or Optional subscription
> channels (because they have lower level of support), so you need
> actual RHEL subscription to use them .

That was what I found out, but I wanted to have a confirmation if
this is still the case. If no, they could be added. If no, I
question the existence of RHEL on the OBS... ;-)

> So I ended up building for CentOS only, if RHEL users will not be
> satisfied - they are free to rebuild it on their own. I guess
> that you can add those subscriptions channel when hosting your
> own instance of OBS and having your own RHEL subscription, but
> never actually tried that.

That could actually be a valid point for the existence of RHEL on
OBS. That make it easier to build for RHEL on a private OBS
instance. But otherwise, if you need to import the
Optional/Supplementary packages, it would not be to hard to import
the RHEL base packages, I guess.

So the question remains, what is RHEL build target good for?

Johannes


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Re: Building against RHEL: What is it good for, if CentOS builds work and RHEL is missing al devel packages...

Dinar Valeev
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Johannes Kastl <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Am 19.12.15 schrieb Stanislav Baiduzhyi:
>
>> Yup, got the same problem. The issue is, lots of devel packages
>> for RHEL are coming in Supplementary or Optional subscription
>> channels (because they have lower level of support), so you need
>> actual RHEL subscription to use them .
>
> That was what I found out, but I wanted to have a confirmation if
> this is still the case. If no, they could be added. If no, I
> question the existence of RHEL on the OBS... ;-)
>
>> So I ended up building for CentOS only, if RHEL users will not be
>> satisfied - they are free to rebuild it on their own. I guess
>> that you can add those subscriptions channel when hosting your
>> own instance of OBS and having your own RHEL subscription, but
>> never actually tried that.
>
> That could actually be a valid point for the existence of RHEL on
> OBS. That make it easier to build for RHEL on a private OBS
> instance. But otherwise, if you need to import the
> Optional/Supplementary packages, it would not be to hard to import
> the RHEL base packages, I guess.
>
> So the question remains, what is RHEL build target good for?
So far CentOS available for x86 only, while RHEL available for extra
architectures.

>
> Johannes
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Re: Building against RHEL: What is it good for, if CentOS builds work and RHEL is missing al devel packages...

Mathias Homann-2
Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015, 13:28:45 schrieb Dinar Valeev:
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Johannes Kastl <[hidden email]> wrote:

> >
> > So the question remains, what is RHEL build target good for?
>
> So far CentOS available for x86 only, while RHEL available for extra
> architectures.

...rhel without -devel packages is moderately pointless.

Cheers
mathias
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